Weather Woes/Great Product
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Weather Woes/Great Product
I redid the nonskid on my deck earlier this summer using Kiwi Grip. I took yesterday afternoon off to get the cabin top done. Perfect forecast, 84 degrees with 0% chance of rain. So you can imagine my frustration when shortly after finishing it began to rain. When I got back to the boat the Kiwi Grip was running off the cabin top down my newly painted deck and streaking the side of my newly painted hull. Stayed at the boat until the rain stopped and I had the boat as clean as I could in the dark, some where around 1:00 am. Pulled onto my street and the rain was back. I went through the entire process again this morning. fortunately the rain kept up all night so nothing dried.
After a couple hours of mopping, rinsing and scrubbing we had everything looking just the way it did before the rain except the new Kiwi Grip. I was too disheartened to take any pictures There were places where the finish had time to dry and looked like the deck, and others where it had washed away completely. The sun finally came out around 11:30 today. It quickly dried what we didn't mop off and left us with a less than pleasing deck.
Here is where the great product comes into the story. I figured I had nothing to loose be trying to fill in all the spots that had washed away. I was sure I was in for a lot of sanding and starting over, but I thought this would get through until spring. To my amazement the Kiwi Grip just blended in. Most of the places I patched you cannot even tell. I wish I had a before shot but here is the end result.
After a couple hours of mopping, rinsing and scrubbing we had everything looking just the way it did before the rain except the new Kiwi Grip. I was too disheartened to take any pictures There were places where the finish had time to dry and looked like the deck, and others where it had washed away completely. The sun finally came out around 11:30 today. It quickly dried what we didn't mop off and left us with a less than pleasing deck.
Here is where the great product comes into the story. I figured I had nothing to loose be trying to fill in all the spots that had washed away. I was sure I was in for a lot of sanding and starting over, but I thought this would get through until spring. To my amazement the Kiwi Grip just blended in. Most of the places I patched you cannot even tell. I wish I had a before shot but here is the end result.
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Looks like a beautiful job.
What color did you use especially for the non-skid It looks like some shade of gray.
Looks like a beautiful job.
What color did you use especially for the non-skid It looks like some shade of gray.
Fair winds,
Roberto
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Roberto
a/k/a Sea Hunt "The Tadpole Sailor"
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It is actual far more beige than it looks in that picture but we bought white and had it mixed. We are very happy with the color. It took a little calling around to find someone to do it, Benjamin Moore is who ended up helping us, we feel it was well worth it. A friend of ours did the decks of his catalina and it would have been much to yellow for our boat.
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I think it looks fantastic. Glad to hear that it all ended well, it certainly would have initially brought me to tears. All that hard work was certainly worth the effort. Job well done!
Jim Walsh
Ex Vice Commodore
Ex Captain-Northeast Fleet
CD31 ORION
The currency of life is not money, it's time
Ex Vice Commodore
Ex Captain-Northeast Fleet
CD31 ORION
The currency of life is not money, it's time
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You lucked out big time ! Fantastic results. Getting to it before it dried averted a nightmare.
Similar situation a couple of months ago - caulked trim around new windows on a day with forecasted clear weather. Had one more to finish when rain started and continued past dark. Came back next morning to find white puddles all over a new cedar deck, rain washed all caulk out before it had time to dry. Fortunately it was still wet and I was able to wash it out with pressure washer, otherwise I would have had to scrape and sand my ass off.
Similar situation a couple of months ago - caulked trim around new windows on a day with forecasted clear weather. Had one more to finish when rain started and continued past dark. Came back next morning to find white puddles all over a new cedar deck, rain washed all caulk out before it had time to dry. Fortunately it was still wet and I was able to wash it out with pressure washer, otherwise I would have had to scrape and sand my ass off.
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Great job!
Skeep
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Supporting Member #1576 of the CDSOA
Current Vessel, Alberg 30 Hull #614 to be named yet
Formerly S/V Hull #729 "Baggy Wrinkles"
Blogsite for Alberg Ty and Alberg 30 continues athttp://baggywrinkles.blogspot.com
Located at Lake Murray Sailing Club, Chapin South Carolina
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Very nice
Sincerely,
Chris B.
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Chris B.
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"It is the Average Sailor, the one who will never set any records or win any major trophies, who really populates the sailing world." Ray Whitaker
"Never tell a young person that something cannot be done. God may have waited for centuries for someone ignorant enough of the impossible to do that very thing."- John Andrew Holmes
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Echoing the others that you had a happy ending.
We're planning on doing our decks next summer and we'll be sure to watch the weather, or watch it as much as possible up here in wetter-than-most-places Nova Scotia.
Our plan is to fill the larger cracks and chips with Marine-tex, sand the entire deck, prime the entire deck with Interlux epoxy primer (including the non-skid), roll on two coats of Interlux Perfection 2-part (including the non-skid), then resand the non-skid
mask the non-skid and apply the kiwi grip.
Any thoughts on this plan would be appreciated.
Again, glad you had a happy ending
Happy Holidays!
Jenn and Terry
We're planning on doing our decks next summer and we'll be sure to watch the weather, or watch it as much as possible up here in wetter-than-most-places Nova Scotia.
Our plan is to fill the larger cracks and chips with Marine-tex, sand the entire deck, prime the entire deck with Interlux epoxy primer (including the non-skid), roll on two coats of Interlux Perfection 2-part (including the non-skid), then resand the non-skid
mask the non-skid and apply the kiwi grip.
Any thoughts on this plan would be appreciated.
Again, glad you had a happy ending
Happy Holidays!
Jenn and Terry
Jennifer & Terry McAdams
Kearsarge, New Hampshire
Mahone Bay, Nova Scotia
CD 31 #33 "Glissade"
Way too many other small boats
Kearsarge, New Hampshire
Mahone Bay, Nova Scotia
CD 31 #33 "Glissade"
Way too many other small boats
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It'll be interesting to see the results. That's a big project and deserves some documentary photographs so others can learn from your flawless planning and execution. All kidding aside it would be an interesting project.
Jim Walsh
Ex Vice Commodore
Ex Captain-Northeast Fleet
CD31 ORION
The currency of life is not money, it's time
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Jenn and Terry
I took a similar approach. First I cleaned the deck really well with mild soap and water, then filled all my major cracks with epoxy, sanded all the gelcoat, and sprayed just the gelcoat areas (not worrying about over spray onto the nonskid). I did all that while the boat was out of the water. Then I masked the nonskid patterns, sanded the over spray right up to the tape (I had to redo a good bit of the tape because of hitting it with sand paper but I wanted to make sure I scratched up the surface all the way to the edge), primed with epoxy primer and rolled out the Kiwi Grip.
I would not paint the nonskid with Perfection. Besides saving you a lot of paint and sanding I don't think it would give you any benefit. Kiwi Grip instructions say to sand new paint to get rid of the gloss. That is really hard to do on nonskid, only the high points get scratched up.
I took a similar approach. First I cleaned the deck really well with mild soap and water, then filled all my major cracks with epoxy, sanded all the gelcoat, and sprayed just the gelcoat areas (not worrying about over spray onto the nonskid). I did all that while the boat was out of the water. Then I masked the nonskid patterns, sanded the over spray right up to the tape (I had to redo a good bit of the tape because of hitting it with sand paper but I wanted to make sure I scratched up the surface all the way to the edge), primed with epoxy primer and rolled out the Kiwi Grip.
I would not paint the nonskid with Perfection. Besides saving you a lot of paint and sanding I don't think it would give you any benefit. Kiwi Grip instructions say to sand new paint to get rid of the gloss. That is really hard to do on nonskid, only the high points get scratched up.
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What tecnique did you use to remove the staysail track? Those SS screws appear to be screwed into an aluminum backing plate. I tried removing one screw to no avail.
Jim Walsh
Ex Vice Commodore
Ex Captain-Northeast Fleet
CD31 ORION
The currency of life is not money, it's time
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I guess I was lucky, mine just came out with a power screw-driver. They went back in with no issues as well.