Jib Questions??'s

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Bill

Jib Questions??'s

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Hello to All

Well, I hate to keep rubbing it in, but yesterday was one beautiful day, wind less than 10 in the am building to 15 in the PM. Blue skies & puffy little clouds. What a day!!!

anyway to the point of this note. My working jib's (100% on CD 25D) luff does not reach the masthead. Yesterday, I attached a pendant to the tack and raise the jib 12-18". I know this raised (and moved aft) the center of effort. Under conditions at the time I noticed no great differance in the helm, but the action increased visibility significantily (sp). What other results could this action have?

2. I am about to purchase a genoa. I have had experience with a 150% on my catalina, and it was truly a deck sweeper. I am afraid that the interferrance with the liftlines will cause too much sail distortion. I have receive qoutes for a 140% with raise clew, shortened luff and tack pendant. Will this work? Will the 140 work for a light air or do I really need a 150. Yes we have days of very light air in the summer doldrums. Can I get a 150 that wont interfer with lifelines, or sweep the foredeck?

Thanks for the time. I am looking forward to your comments as I am ready to order the sail.

Bill
S/V Rhapsody



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kevin aubuchon

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Post by kevin aubuchon »

I have a CD25 (outboard). My biggest jib was a 135 and in the summer doldrums my performance was poor. I got a 150, and what a difference! Even with a bow pulpit and life lines, the performance gain was great. Having the sail distorted at the bottom loses only neglible speed - for a cruising boat like the CD25(D). I never found visibility to be a problem.

I also have a 170 genoa, visibililty is effected but not to the point I wouldn't use the sail. When the wind is blowing 5-10 kts, I put up the 170. For 10 - 15+ kts I use the 150, possibly reefing the main. I always reef the main before changing the headsail to a 135.

good luck
kevin



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Daryl Miglia

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Post by Daryl Miglia »

Bill wrote: Hello to All

Well, I hate to keep rubbing it in, but yesterday was one beautiful day, wind less than 10 in the am building to 15 in the PM. Blue skies & puffy little clouds. What a day!!!

anyway to the point of this note. My working jib's (100% on CD 25D) luff does not reach the masthead. Yesterday, I attached a pendant to the tack and raise the jib 12-18". I know this raised (and moved aft) the center of effort. Under conditions at the time I noticed no great differance in the helm, but the action increased visibility significantily (sp). What other results could this action have?

2. I am about to purchase a genoa. I have had experience with a 150% on my catalina, and it was truly a deck sweeper. I am afraid that the interferrance with the liftlines will cause too much sail distortion. I have receive qoutes for a 140% with raise clew, shortened luff and tack pendant. Will this work? Will the 140 work for a light air or do I really need a 150. Yes we have days of very light air in the summer doldrums. Can I get a 150 that wont interfer with lifelines, or sweep the foredeck?

Thanks for the time. I am looking forward to your comments as I am ready to order the sail.

Bill
S/V Rhapsody
Bill'
I modified the lifelines on my CD22 to run to the base of the bow pulpit instead of the normal attachment at the top. This left the 150 a place to go without contacting the lifeline at all. It worked very well and saved the sail from wearing against the lifeline. It doesn't address the visibility issue but I haven't really had a problem with visibility.
Daryl



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steve alarcon

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Post by steve alarcon »

Bill,

Lest you think you have the market cornered on fine winter sailing...We had 15-18 MPH breeze Sunday AM, building to 20-25 late
in the afternoon. All that, and it was in the 50 degree F. range also. We just had our bottom scrubbed, and were able to hit 7.0
and 7.2, well above the 6.4 hull speed for our CD30 (my wife thought we had too much sail up). I thought about you while we
were out, and mentioned to my wife that there was a fellow on the "web" that would enjoy our weather here in the Pacific
Northwest. Is there any doubt that Cape Dorys are the best?

Steve Alarcon
CD30 Temerity
Seattle



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Brent Musolf

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Post by Brent Musolf »

Bill,

I have a Cd typhoon with life lines. I was also concerned about the same problem, so I went to my favorite sail maker and asked him about it and he showed me sail plans and how they could adapt the clew height so that it would be above the life lines. After much discusion I decided on a triradial asymetrical instead of a 150% because I can fly it prettey much like a 150 but with significant advantages downwind. The asymetrical just arrived last wek so i havent had time to try it out but am giddy with anticipation. We on the gulf coast also am having incredible weather. Already had three races for the season and have had tempatures in the high 80's today it in the 70's with wind about 15. Trying to bail from work early so that I can explore gulf coast.



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