Leads when Reefing the Genoa

[Jim1945]

When furling(CDI Furler) the genoa to reduce sail area the proper procedure is to change the jib sheet lead position for proper sheet angle. Does anyone move the jib sheets to the cabin top leads to do this? The genoa track is fairly short and I wouldn't think moving it forward would be enough of a change. This would, of course, depend on how much you furled. My genoa has a 10 foot 3 inch foot (150%) and I would think just a few wraps of the furler would be enough to allow use of the cabin top leads.

[swhfire21]

I usually move the genoa sheets to the cabin top leads when furled to the equivalent of a 100% jib or smaller. It seems to help the boat point better.

[Jim1945]

I usually move the genoa sheets to the cabin top leads when furled to the equivalent of a 100% jib or smaller. It seems to help the boat point better.

Thanks Steve. It seemed to make sense to move the sheets. Just wanted confirmation from someone who actually did this. I just bought my Ty about a month ago and haven't yet sailed it. Long wait for me until Spring.

[rtbates]

On our 25D, with a 130, when reefing I simply move the block forward on the toe rail track. By the time I need to get down to 100% or less it's blowing rather hard, so trying to beat as close to the wind as possible isn't an desirable option. Neither is moving the sheets in those conditions. I removed the blocks from the inboard deck track years ago. No tracks on cabin.

[Jim1945]

On our 25D, with a 130, when reefing I simply move the block forward on the toe rail track. By the time I need to get down to 100% or less it's blowing rather hard, so trying to beat as close to the wind as possible isn't an desirable option. Neither is moving the sheets in those conditions. I removed the blocks from the inboard deck track years ago. No tracks on cabin.

Thanks for the response Randy. I'm sure it's a little different on a 25D than a Typhoon. The concern was for the angle of the sheet to the sail and not trying to get closer to the wind. I think it's typical to move blocks forward on the genoa track when rolling up the headsail but on a Typhoon the genoa track is very short.

[Neil Gordon]

By the time I need to get down to 100% or less it's blowing rather hard, so trying to beat as close to the wind as possible isn't an desirable option. Neither is moving the sheets in those conditions.

It's tricky when you're alone. Heaving to puts the lazy sheet to leeward. Best to check the thread on tethering.

[rtbates]

On our 25D, with a 130, when reefing I simply move the block forward on the toe rail track. By the time I need to get down to 100% or less it's blowing rather hard, so trying to beat as close to the wind as possible isn't an desirable option. Neither is moving the sheets in those conditions. I removed the blocks from the inboard deck track years ago. No tracks on cabin.

Thanks for the response Randy. I'm sure it's a little different on a 25D than a Typhoon. The concern was for the angle of the sheet to the sail and not trying to get closer to the wind. I think it's typical to move blocks forward on the genoa track when rolling up the headsail but on a Typhoon the genoa track is very short.

You're welcome.

[rtbates]

By the time I need to get down to 100% or less it's blowing rather hard, so trying to beat as close to the wind as possible isn't an desirable option. Neither is moving the sheets in those conditions.

It's tricky when you're alone. Heaving to puts the lazy sheet to leeward. Best to check the thread on tethering.

With the 25D's rather long track, even at less than 100%, all I've ever needed to do was to to scoot the blocks forward as I reef. It's quite easy, as I do the lazy or high side, without having to entirely leave the cockpit. Tack and do the other side.

I'm not sure what your reference to tethering is about?

[Dave H]

Am I correct in thinking that the perfect jib sheet lead is the line that bisects the angle formed by the leech and foot of the sail?
Dave

[tjr818]

Am I correct in thinking that the perfect jib sheet lead is the line that bisects the angle formed by the leech and foot of the sail?
Dave

If only it were that easy Although, that certainly will get you close. I try to get enough downward force to minimize any fluttering of the leech.

This ought to be a great winter topic.

[Neil Gordon]

For a couple of thousand boat bucks or so, you can rig the genoa cars so that they're adjustable, under load, from the cockpit.

[swhfire21]

I generally will move the sheet from the genoa track to the inboard track after I've reefed/furled and am sailing. I'll do the upwind/lazy sheet then catch the other on the next tack. The tiller tamer will generally keep the boat going straight'ish long enough for me to comfortably make the move.

I can do everything from the companionway. The hardest part is getting the sheet from outboard to inboard of the shrouds. A little bit of stretching and a well timed fling/catch of the line generally works.

[Jim1945]

Thanks for the reply Steve. Yeah, moving the sheet around the shrouds would require a stretch. What's great about the Ty's is being able to do most things from the companionway.

[Neil Gordon]

A little bit of stretching and a well timed fling/catch of the line generally works.

As would using a boat hook for that extra bit where you can't quite reach.