CD22 Headsail Survey

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nhammatt
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CD22 Headsail Survey

Post by nhammatt »

What are folks using for headsails on their CD22's?
Do you have a quiver, or one catch-all? Do you complement with a/symmetrical downwind sails?
What do you like, what would you do different if you had a loft in the backyard?

I know the 135 is standard "all-boat-anywhere" issue, and I know local conditions play a big role in deciding whats best for any individual boat, but,
what has worked best in practice for your 22?

Thanks,
Nat

OK OK- all you crazy Ty Sr. people with your fancy 7/8ths rigs are invited to the party too.
NateHanson
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Re: CD22 Headsail Survey

Post by NateHanson »

I've got a jib and a lapper. I'm guessing the smaller is about 120, and the big one could be 140-150. The big one is nice in light winds, especially with a whisker pole, but the 120 gets much more use. I don't notice much speed difference upwind or across the wind, and the sheeting angle to the eye on the side deck is much better than going to the rail with the big jib.

I would like to add a track where that eye is on the side deck, to allow for better trim of the smaller jib. I'd also like a spinnaker (either asym or sym), and if I had one, I doubt I'd ever use the big genoa.

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shavdog
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Re: CD22 Headsail Survey

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I used hank on for the first three yrs....125 and a 150....last yr I switched to cdi roller furling and a north 150...its a heavy sail but the safety benefits far out weigh that...I solo sail mostly and it's not fun trying to change in windy conditions and it's a whole lot easier rolling it out and rolling it in vs the alternative....big improvement for me...I also have a aysymetrical spinnaker...i'ts nice, goes up easy but difficult to sail straight downwind in a race...
hughesw
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Re: CD22 Headsail Survey

Post by hughesw »

My CD-22 came with a 135 on a Schaffer Snapfurl 500 roller furler. The 135 and mansail are about 10 yrs old and the 135 was beginning to show a lot of wear. Last year I ordered a 140% genoa from Doyle-Ploch. It is a beautiful sail and fits my needs brilliantly, except for light air (< 5 mph). It is 5 oz Dacron, so it's a bit stiff. I've thought about geting an assymetrical spinnaker, but not sure how much use I would get out of it. As the wind pipes up above 15 mph I'll consider putting a reef in the mainsail to reduce heeling. Above 20 mph I'll have a reef in the main and consider rolling in the genoa.
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Gary H
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Re: CD22 Headsail Survey

Post by Gary H »

For the past 7 years, I have sailed a Typhoon. I launched my 22D last week and have sailed her a total of 2 times. Once in light wind and once in gusts up to 15 - both times with a 150 furling Genoa. Both sails were wonderful.

When gusting at 15 with a full Genoa and full main, It required considerably more muscle on the tiller (weaher helm) than I was accustomed to with the Typhoon (sailing at a max heel of about 22 degrees). It is hard for me to know what is considered excessive weather helm as the Ty is such a beautifully balanced boat.

My initial impression is that a full main and 150 genoa is too much sail at winds of 15. As a 150 Genoa extends considerably aft of the mast, I would think it adds to the weather helm.

I would like to hear from others with a 22, on how much weather helm they experience with different sail configurations.
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NateHanson
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Re: CD22 Headsail Survey

Post by NateHanson »

My 22 balances very nicely with the right sail combination. Just a one-finger degree of weather helm.

As with most boats, I'd say you're just sailing slower with more than a finger of weather helm on these boats.

At 15 knots I'm sometimes taking a reef on the main, but I'm sailing shorthanded with kids.
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Re: CD22 Headsail Survey

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15 is about it on the 150 on my 22...I start to let air out of the main for control and to prevent excessive heel...12 is ideal for me....15-20 I am at a 120 or so....25-30 I am on the deck with a cold one...Gary, I do agree with you the typhoon is a better balanced boat and sails nicer...maybe it's the fractional rig
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