The mainsail on Sine Qua Non (1980 CD27) has cringles for 2 reefs. The boom is set up for jiffy reefing for one reef. I don't have gooseneck hooks but I have lines, which I prefer at this time because eventually all lines will be led to the cockpit. There is only one block on the starboard side of the boom for leading the clew line from the 1st reef forward to a small cleat on the boom. Nothing is in place for the 2nd reef. What rigging did you put on the boom for the 2nd reef? What side of the boom? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! By the way. If any of you have the reefing lines going to the cockpit, did you have both sets of reefing lines going to the same side of the cockpit?
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Rigging for 2nd reef CD27
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Al Levesque
Re: Rigging for 2nd reef CD27
After rerouting our reefing lines, we have both lines from the reefing clew cringles coming back to the cockpit, through cam cleats, and to a winch. This way, I can raise the boom with the clew line while paying out the sheet. Once the clew is secured, I go to the mast, lower the sail until I can hook in the tack and then retighten the halyard.Warren Kaplan wrote: ....If any of you have the reefing lines going to the cockpit, did you have both sets of reefing lines going to the same side of the cockpit?
The first and second reef clew lines are side by side and either can use the single winch. The second reef line is heavier and easy to identify. It is also easy to see which line is pulling the correct cringle.
The previous setup used one cam cleat for the first reef through the Harken system and the other cam cleat for the halyard.
I realize this doesn't directly answer your question but I hope it helps.
Al
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John M
Re: Rigging for 2nd reef CD27
Hi Warren,Warren Kaplan wrote: There is only one block on the starboard side of the boom for leading the clew line from the 1st reef forward to a small cleat on the boom. Nothing is in place for the 2nd reef. What rigging did you put on the boom for the 2nd reef? What side of the boom? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
We installed a length of 1" track to the starboard side of the boom. (Note: I thru bolted the track to the boom). To this we added 2 reefing slides (slide simular to Schafer part #73-37, our slides are not Schafer brand). At the forward end of the boom, we changed the small cleat to a larger cleat. I also added, to the clew reefing line, a pig-tail with 3:1 purchase. Now my wife is able to pull in a reef, even in high wind. We prefer to handle mainsail reefing lines and mainsail halyard at the mast. Hope this helps.
John & Nancy Martin
CD28 #346 Intrepid
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Bruce Bett
Re: Rigging for 2nd reef CD27
Warren:
Sostenuto has two sets of reef lines rigged. Both are on the starboard side. I see no reason why one could not be rigged on either side. You will need another cheekblock and another cleat. The only trick that I can tell you is to make sure that the cheekblock is well aft of the aft reefpoint so that the reefline will make an effective outhaul. I've seen this done poorly on more that one boat (In one case I helped to do it wrong). It needs to be farther back than you (I) might think
Bruce Bett
Sostenuto
CD25 #496
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Sostenuto has two sets of reef lines rigged. Both are on the starboard side. I see no reason why one could not be rigged on either side. You will need another cheekblock and another cleat. The only trick that I can tell you is to make sure that the cheekblock is well aft of the aft reefpoint so that the reefline will make an effective outhaul. I've seen this done poorly on more that one boat (In one case I helped to do it wrong). It needs to be farther back than you (I) might think
Bruce Bett
Sostenuto
CD25 #496
Warren Kaplan wrote: The mainsail on Sine Qua Non (1980 CD27) has cringles for 2 reefs. The boom is set up for jiffy reefing for one reef. I don't have gooseneck hooks but I have lines, which I prefer at this time because eventually all lines will be led to the cockpit. There is only one block on the starboard side of the boom for leading the clew line from the 1st reef forward to a small cleat on the boom. Nothing is in place for the 2nd reef. What rigging did you put on the boom for the 2nd reef? What side of the boom? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! By the way. If any of you have the reefing lines going to the cockpit, did you have both sets of reefing lines going to the same side of the cockpit?
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Bob Miller
Re: Rigging for 2nd reef CD27
On our CD 27, we just have the 2nd set of reef points set up. The 1st reef is not that deep and I'd prefer to be undercanvassed rather than overcanvassed. - Bob M.
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Warren Kaplan wrote: The mainsail on Sine Qua Non (1980 CD27) has cringles for 2 reefs. The boom is set up for jiffy reefing for one reef. I don't have gooseneck hooks but I have lines, which I prefer at this time because eventually all lines will be led to the cockpit. There is only one block on the starboard side of the boom for leading the clew line from the 1st reef forward to a small cleat on the boom. Nothing is in place for the 2nd reef. What rigging did you put on the boom for the 2nd reef? What side of the boom? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! By the way. If any of you have the reefing lines going to the cockpit, did you have both sets of reefing lines going to the same side of the cockpit?
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Richard Gelfand
Re: Rigging for 2nd reef CD27
I have two sets of reefing lines,that are operated from the mast. I would not suggest having one set on one side and the other on the other side. I have everything on the starboard side of the boom where I can access the main halyard as that too is on the starbord side. I use two different colored lines for each reef, 1st & 2nd. I have lines run for the tack points on the sail rather than using the hooks on the boom method. I think that it is easier to cleat the line then to get the sail tack on a hook. There are specific ways in which the lines need to be run from from the boom up to the reef point on the leach and then down through a cheek block on the boom before going to the mast. I believe that you can find some pictures in any reasonable book on rigging. Hope that this helps too.
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Bill Goldsmith
Re: Rigging for 2nd reef CD27
Warren:
On my 27 there is Jiffy reefing installed for both 1st and 2nd reefs. Similar to other posts here, the first reef uses a cheek block well aft on the starboard side boom so that when tightened it acts as an outhaul. The reefing line gets tied to a post on the cheek block, goes under the boom, up to and through the cringle, down through the block and forward through a couple of padeyes to a cleat on the starboard side. The second reef is a little farther forward (but aft enough to act as an outhaul), and is on the OTHER (port) side of the boom, so it is a mirror image--the line goes up to the second cringle, down to the cheek block and to a cleat on the port side. I can actually see an advantage to putting both reefs on the starboard side of the boom to make it easier to go from one to the other while up at the mast. However, you would need to keep the lines from tangling by running them through padeyes.
My boom has no tack reefing hook. I usually use a length of line or webbing and tie a slip knot to hold the tack cringle to the gooseneck.
My reefing cheek blocks were not installed on tracks. Why do many systems use tracks? Wouldn't a single location be fine unless a new sail were purchased that had the cringle in a different location?
Bill Goldsmith
CD27 #173
Second Chance
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On my 27 there is Jiffy reefing installed for both 1st and 2nd reefs. Similar to other posts here, the first reef uses a cheek block well aft on the starboard side boom so that when tightened it acts as an outhaul. The reefing line gets tied to a post on the cheek block, goes under the boom, up to and through the cringle, down through the block and forward through a couple of padeyes to a cleat on the starboard side. The second reef is a little farther forward (but aft enough to act as an outhaul), and is on the OTHER (port) side of the boom, so it is a mirror image--the line goes up to the second cringle, down to the cheek block and to a cleat on the port side. I can actually see an advantage to putting both reefs on the starboard side of the boom to make it easier to go from one to the other while up at the mast. However, you would need to keep the lines from tangling by running them through padeyes.
My boom has no tack reefing hook. I usually use a length of line or webbing and tie a slip knot to hold the tack cringle to the gooseneck.
My reefing cheek blocks were not installed on tracks. Why do many systems use tracks? Wouldn't a single location be fine unless a new sail were purchased that had the cringle in a different location?
Bill Goldsmith
CD27 #173
Second Chance
Warren Kaplan wrote: The mainsail on Sine Qua Non (1980 CD27) has cringles for 2 reefs. The boom is set up for jiffy reefing for one reef. I don't have gooseneck hooks but I have lines, which I prefer at this time because eventually all lines will be led to the cockpit. There is only one block on the starboard side of the boom for leading the clew line from the 1st reef forward to a small cleat on the boom. Nothing is in place for the 2nd reef. What rigging did you put on the boom for the 2nd reef? What side of the boom? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! By the way. If any of you have the reefing lines going to the cockpit, did you have both sets of reefing lines going to the same side of the cockpit?
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Warren Kaplan
Re: Rigging for 2nd reef CD27
Thanks everyone for your input. Gives me some options to think about before I do anything.
Warren
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John M
Re: Rigging for 2nd reef CD27
When I had this mainsail made, I had the sailmaker install NON-standard spacing for my reef points. When changing to another mainsail, the angle of the cheek blocks may be off somewhat. It takes just moments to adjust the clew reef angle.Mark Yashinsky wrote: John, why are the cheek blocks on tracks???
Also, it is rare, sailing here on Lake Lanier, that a 2nd or 3rd reef is needed. I have just 2 cheek block slides. The #2 silde will work for the 2nd or 3rd reef. And, if the #1 slides ever fails, I have a back-up in place.
It is a system that adds a lot of versatility. Hope this helps.
John & Nancy Martin
CD28 #346 Intrepid
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