Alcohol stoves
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Re: Alcohol stoves
When we owned a typhoon the only cooking I did was in the cockpit, but that was making coffee or reheating something already cooked ashore because we rarely stayed aboard and when we did it was not for more than a weekend.
When you are aboard for more than a few days I think it is very important to have real, balanced meals which means very careful planning or real cooking.
With a TY Senior it would be a toss up which was more challenging. In settled weather or with adequate canvas cooking in the cockpit would certainly give you more room. We tent camped for years before we started sailing and I have had my fill of rain in my cooking pot! So I would want a stove I could safely take below.
In either case I would still want my Origo one burner because I feel it is the safest fuel and the safest means of containing the fuel. Also either way it is important to have some way of securing the stove against the idiot who throws a wake in the anchorage or marina.
Hope that helps. Jo
When you are aboard for more than a few days I think it is very important to have real, balanced meals which means very careful planning or real cooking.
With a TY Senior it would be a toss up which was more challenging. In settled weather or with adequate canvas cooking in the cockpit would certainly give you more room. We tent camped for years before we started sailing and I have had my fill of rain in my cooking pot! So I would want a stove I could safely take below.
In either case I would still want my Origo one burner because I feel it is the safest fuel and the safest means of containing the fuel. Also either way it is important to have some way of securing the stove against the idiot who throws a wake in the anchorage or marina.
Hope that helps. Jo
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Re: Alcohol stoves
I'm not sure if this entry qualifies for this thread--since I'm essentially opting out of the alcohol-stove option, but here goes:
On Thursday I finally started work on the boat. One of the projects was supposed to be replacing my non-functioning and potentially dangerous Kenyon pressure alcohol/electric stove with an Origo or CookMate. However, when Rich VanHeynigen and I pulled the old stove, we found that the cutout was simply too big for either brand.
The solution: I'm ordering a stainless-steel plate to cover the cutout, and I'll continue to cook with my two-burner propane camp stove that takes 1-lb propane canisters. I've also got an old butane/propane powered sea-swing type stove that I'll have to replace once I run out of fuel canisters. This type of canister is no longer imported into the US.
--Joe
P.S. On Thursday afternoon I watched the local mooring contractor replacing most of the winter sticks with mooring balls. The season is getting closer!
On Thursday I finally started work on the boat. One of the projects was supposed to be replacing my non-functioning and potentially dangerous Kenyon pressure alcohol/electric stove with an Origo or CookMate. However, when Rich VanHeynigen and I pulled the old stove, we found that the cutout was simply too big for either brand.
The solution: I'm ordering a stainless-steel plate to cover the cutout, and I'll continue to cook with my two-burner propane camp stove that takes 1-lb propane canisters. I've also got an old butane/propane powered sea-swing type stove that I'll have to replace once I run out of fuel canisters. This type of canister is no longer imported into the US.
--Joe
P.S. On Thursday afternoon I watched the local mooring contractor replacing most of the winter sticks with mooring balls. The season is getting closer!
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"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
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Re: Alcohol stoves
Curious, because when I pulled the pressure alcohol stove to replace it with a two burner Origo, I found the cutout was too small. There was adequate space underneath and I just needed to cut a bit so it would drop in.Joe Myerson wrote: One of the projects was supposed to be replacing my non-functioning and potentially dangerous Kenyon pressure alcohol/electric stove with an Origo or CookMate. However, when Rich VanHeynigen and I pulled the old stove, we found that the cutout was simply too big for either brand.
Fair winds, Neil
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Re: Alcohol stoves
Neil,Neil Gordon wrote:Joe Myerson wrote: Curious, because when I pulled the pressure alcohol stove to replace it with a two burner Origo, I found the cutout was too small. There was adequate space underneath and I just needed to cut a bit so it would drop in.
I expected to find the same situation, but the Kenyon alcohol/electric model must need a larger cutout for the dual sets of controls. At least my theory.
--Joe
Former Commodore, CDSOA
Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
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Re: Alcohol stoves
Ah... alcohol/electric. That's different. Still... you could have made the hold smaller, too.Joe Myerson wrote:Neil,Neil Gordon wrote:Joe Myerson wrote: Curious, because when I pulled the pressure alcohol stove to replace it with a two burner Origo, I found the cutout was too small. There was adequate space underneath and I just needed to cut a bit so it would drop in.
I expected to find the same situation, but the Kenyon alcohol/electric model must need a larger cutout for the dual sets of controls. At least my theory.
--Joe
Fair winds, Neil
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Re: Alcohol stoves
Thanks Jo,
I completely agree about good food aboard, although there is very simple food in Puffin's "pantry" when a B plan is in order. My main concern is safety with gasoline motor fuel present. I had the Coast Guard Auxiliary aboard in '08 for a safety inspection, and that inspector thought the cockpit was safe due to the gasoline fumes "falling" from the motor compartment down and out the opening where the motor lower unit goes into the water. I am absolute about no fuel in the lazarette or below. I have ordered a CookMate single burner alcohol stove with gimbals. I'm looking forward to cooking fuel that does not produce explosive fumes. Thanks again for your comments.
Dave
I completely agree about good food aboard, although there is very simple food in Puffin's "pantry" when a B plan is in order. My main concern is safety with gasoline motor fuel present. I had the Coast Guard Auxiliary aboard in '08 for a safety inspection, and that inspector thought the cockpit was safe due to the gasoline fumes "falling" from the motor compartment down and out the opening where the motor lower unit goes into the water. I am absolute about no fuel in the lazarette or below. I have ordered a CookMate single burner alcohol stove with gimbals. I'm looking forward to cooking fuel that does not produce explosive fumes. Thanks again for your comments.
Dave
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Re: Alcohol stoves
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Bob Chinn
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