glom or jail?
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- SurryMark
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glom or jail?
USCG regs on documentation require boat and port names be 4" high. That can be a bit glommy for the port name, and I've seen documented boats with smaller lettering. Has anybody been hassled on this?
Also, they require the boat number to be fixed inside "in a way that removing the number would show." Right. As if none of us have ever stolen a police car and filed and filled and buffed the VIN number off, invisibly. I'm assuming they don't bother with this, so decals would be fine. Anyone know otherwise?
Also, they require the boat number to be fixed inside "in a way that removing the number would show." Right. As if none of us have ever stolen a police car and filed and filled and buffed the VIN number off, invisibly. I'm assuming they don't bother with this, so decals would be fine. Anyone know otherwise?
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Re: glom or jail?
Mark, you need to affix the coast guard assigned documentation number inside of your boat. You can apply decals and then slap over a layer of thin fiberglass cloth with resin to make it rather permanent. It has been done in foreberth storage areas on the hull, in the sail lockers in the cockpit on the hull and other areas on the inside of the hull. One friend engraved the number on a piece of wood and fiberglassed that to the fiberglass bulk head. Have fun.
Re: glom or jail?
No one ever gets hassled about letter size, dont worry about it. Put the name and hailing port on in a way that looks good to you.
For doc #s, get a nice peice of teak, use a router to put the numbers in that board, then epoxy it inside the boat (mine is under the nav table).
For doc #s, get a nice peice of teak, use a router to put the numbers in that board, then epoxy it inside the boat (mine is under the nav table).
Russell
s/v (yet to be named) Tayana 42CC
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Re: glom or jail?
I applied stick on numbers and put a layer of clear epoxy over them. It's on the hull under one of the settees.
Lots of people cheat on the size and style of name/hailing port. I'd go with the block letters, as required, and go as large as you can without destroying the aesthetics. You're not likely to be cited unless you're otherwise misbehaving.
Lots of people cheat on the size and style of name/hailing port. I'd go with the block letters, as required, and go as large as you can without destroying the aesthetics. You're not likely to be cited unless you're otherwise misbehaving.
Fair winds, Neil
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Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
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s/v LIQUIDITY
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Re: glom or jail?
Also- for smaller text it is a good idea to use a sans serif font. It is much easier to read at a distance.
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Re: glom or jail?
Mine are just plain block letters... pretty easy to read. http://bostonsailors.blogspot.com/ LIQUIDITY is in 4' letters, I think. The hailing port is 3".
Fair winds, Neil
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Re: glom or jail?
My hailing port is in sans-serif type, black and easy to read. A neighbor, who is somewhat of a stickler, commented that the letters didn't look 4 inches tall to him. He was right, of course. But that was 9 years ago. My boat's doc. number is routed to a piece of teak that's attached to a bulkhead with something indestructible. I'm not sure what it is ... 5200 perhaps?
Anyhow, it seems to work.
--Joe
Anyhow, it seems to work.
--Joe
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Re: glom or jail?
Sequeteague Harbor, MA in 4" letters would be quite a display on your 25's transom.Joe Myerson wrote:My hailing port is in sans-serif type, black and easy to read. A neighbor, who is somewhat of a stickler, commented that the letters didn't look 4 inches tall to him. He was right, of course. But that was 9 years ago. My boat's doc. number is routed to a piece of teak that's attached to a bulkhead with something indestructible. I'm not sure what it is ... 5200 perhaps?
Anyhow, it seems to work.
--Joe
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Re: glom or jail?
True, Mark. But I list my hailing port as "Cataumet, MA," which is the village name. It's a lot shorter.SurryMark wrote: Sequeteague Harbor, MA in 4" letters would be quite a display on your 25's transom.
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Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
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Re: glom or jail?
FYI, the interior marking needs to be affixed to a structural component of the hull.Joe Myerson wrote:My hailing port is in sans-serif type, black and easy to read. A neighbor, who is somewhat of a stickler, commented that the letters didn't look 4 inches tall to him. He was right, of course. But that was 9 years ago. My boat's doc. number is routed to a piece of teak that's attached to a bulkhead with something indestructible. I'm not sure what it is ... 5200 perhaps?
Anyhow, it seems to work.
--Joe
Fair winds, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
CDSOA member #698
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
CDSOA member #698
Re: glom or jail?
Most folks would categorize a ship's bulkhead as a (vital) structural component. C.f.,Neil Gordon wrote:FYI, the interior marking needs to be affixed to a structural component of the hull.Joe Myerson wrote: ... My boat's doc. number is routed to a piece of teak that's attached to a bulkhead ...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bulkhead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulkhead_(partition)
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Re: glom or jail?
As would I.CD_Sailor wrote:Most folks would categorize a ship's bulkhead as a (vital) structural component.
I'm just saying that the rule is specific to "hull." That said, I'm not seeing incarceration or forfeiture of the vessel as a likely outcome of the rules infraction.
Fair winds, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
CDSOA member #698
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
CDSOA member #698
Re: glom or jail?
I wouldn't bet the family farm these days.Neil Gordon wrote: ... I'm not seeing incarceration or forfeiture of the vessel as a likely outcome of the rules infraction.
Re: glom or jail?
I am not sure what that means. Personally I have never heard of anyone being checked for things like this, much less being cited. I have been boarded by the coast guard a few times and their focus is on safety gear, they have looked at the documentation paperwork, but never once cared to look at how the doc# was affixed to the hull or if it even was present. Now I am not suggesting one should blatently violate any of the rules, but I highly doubt anyone is ever going to care if hailing port letters are 1/2" too small (other then the random marina neighbor who likes to show off his knowledge). An inspected vessel for commercial use would be an entire different story, but an uninspected pleasure vessel, the USCG simply has no reason to care and they dont.CD_Sailor wrote:I wouldn't bet the family farm these days.Neil Gordon wrote: ... I'm not seeing incarceration or forfeiture of the vessel as a likely outcome of the rules infraction.
Russell
s/v (yet to be named) Tayana 42CC
s/v Lady Pauline Cape Dory 36 #117 (for sale)
s/v (yet to be named) Tayana 42CC
s/v Lady Pauline Cape Dory 36 #117 (for sale)
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It's called irony. Hope that helps (I don't do smileys).Russell wrote:I am not sure what that means ...CD_Sailor wrote:I wouldn't bet the family farm these days.Neil Gordon wrote:... I'm not seeing incarceration or forfeiture of the vessel as a likely outcome of the rules infraction.