I have read that the engine wells in the first two years of CD25's were larger than those in subsequent years and that this may cause a wetter than desireable cockpit when sailing in a following sea or when reversing under power. Would very much appreciate comments from sailors with experience with 1973 or 1974 CD25's concerning this issue. Is this really a problem? There are some nice CD25's of that vintage for sale in my area. Should I ignore the difference in the engine well design or should I look for more recent models ?
joels@ids.net
CD25 engine well in 1973, 1974 models ... do they cause wet
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Max Treece
Re: CD25 engine well in 1973, 1974 models
I have CD25 Hull#88 which is a 1973 model with the larger motor well. I have never had a wet cockpit because of the well or a following sea. I haven't had the boat out in the ocean as it has only seen fresh water lake sailing conditions. I have been out in whitecaps and a short chop. The motor well has two plugs; one is a drain plug similar to a runabout motor boat and a larger fiberglass plug that will plug the square hole to well. When Both plugs are installed, water will not come into the well. I often sail without the 6 HP short shaft Johnson motor installed in the well for running but just laying on the big plug. This allows sailing without the drag of the prop and shaft.
The extra space in the well of my model is big enough for the 6 gallon fuel tank to be in there on one side. I usually put the larger plug on the other side. The well is also large enough for the motor to turn horizonally when laying on top of the large plug for storage of the motor. The mounting bracket is low enough to also allow the motor to be installed for running so that the cover can be completely closed. I always run the motor with the cover tied open slightly to allow access to the throttle and gear shift.
The motor well with the motor installed in a running position will accumulate some water in the well while sailing but not enough to come into the cockpit. I always leave the drain plug open so water will drain freely out of well.
If you have further questions about the well, please send e-mail.
metreece@duke-energy.com
The extra space in the well of my model is big enough for the 6 gallon fuel tank to be in there on one side. I usually put the larger plug on the other side. The well is also large enough for the motor to turn horizonally when laying on top of the large plug for storage of the motor. The mounting bracket is low enough to also allow the motor to be installed for running so that the cover can be completely closed. I always run the motor with the cover tied open slightly to allow access to the throttle and gear shift.
The motor well with the motor installed in a running position will accumulate some water in the well while sailing but not enough to come into the cockpit. I always leave the drain plug open so water will drain freely out of well.
If you have further questions about the well, please send e-mail.
JSS wrote: I have read that the engine wells in the first two years of CD25's were larger than those in subsequent years and that this may cause a wetter than desireable cockpit when sailing in a following sea or when reversing under power. Would very much appreciate comments from sailors with experience with 1973 or 1974 CD25's concerning this issue. Is this really a problem? There are some nice CD25's of that vintage for sale in my area. Should I ignore the difference in the engine well design or should I look for more recent models ?
metreece@duke-energy.com
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Tom Foley
Re: CD25 engine well
We have a 74 CD25 and I have to agree with Max's comments. I sail in the Atlantic off Saco, Maine and have been in some pretty good waves and white caps. When well healed I do get water in the cockpit from the drains but never from the motor well.
I have read that the engine wells in the first two years of CD25's were larger than those in subsequent years and that this may cause a wetter than desireable cockpit when sailing in a following sea or when reversing under power. Would very much appreciate comments from sailors with experience with 1973 or 1974 CD25's concerning this issue. Is this really a problem? There are some nice CD25's of that vintage for sale in my area. Should I ignore the difference in the engine well design or should I look for more recent models ?
alewifehouse@mainecoast.net
I have read that the engine wells in the first two years of CD25's were larger than those in subsequent years and that this may cause a wetter than desireable cockpit when sailing in a following sea or when reversing under power. Would very much appreciate comments from sailors with experience with 1973 or 1974 CD25's concerning this issue. Is this really a problem? There are some nice CD25's of that vintage for sale in my area. Should I ignore the difference in the engine well design or should I look for more recent models ?
alewifehouse@mainecoast.net
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Bruce Bett
Re: CD25 engine well
You don't get water in the cockpit. You do get water in the engine well. It's an annoying little problem that you may want to fix.
Bruce Bett
bettb@macomb.cc.mi.us
Bruce Bett
JSS wrote: I have read that the engine wells in the first two years of CD25's were larger than those in subsequent years and that this may cause a wetter than desireable cockpit when sailing in a following sea or when reversing under power. Would very much appreciate comments from sailors with experience with 1973 or 1974 CD25's concerning this issue. Is this really a problem? There are some nice CD25's of that vintage for sale in my area. Should I ignore the difference in the engine well design or should I look for more recent models ?
bettb@macomb.cc.mi.us
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JSS
Re: CD25 engine well
<B>Bruce Bett wrote: You don't get water in the cockpit. You do get water in the engine well. It's an annoying little problem that you may want to fix.
Bruce Bett
Please describe both the <u> problem </u>( water in the engine well) and the <u> fixes </u> in more detail. Thanks.
</B>
joels@ids.net
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Bruce Bett
Re: CD25 engine well
Here's some comments I posted a couple of years ago is responce to a question from Don Kolenda. I found this by doing a search on the old messages on "flooding". The search turns up several postings relating to this problem.
Bruce
In Reply to: CD25 Engine Well Flooding posted by Don Kolenda on 7/13/1998 at 08:33
Don:
The older Cape Dory 25's had that problem. Here's what I wrote in reply to a similar query a
couple of years ago.
"My dad used to own a 1973 CD 25. I currently own a 77 model. Some significant
improvements were made in the lazarette design somewhere between those years. The old Dory
really did scoop the water! My dad had two solutions (besides keeping the water tank full). The
first was a couple of blocks of lead bullion up in the chain locker. The second was to fill the
lazarette (with two gas tanks in place) with urathane foam. This did cut down on the scooping. A
better solution would be to enlarge the lazartte hatch cover, enclose the motor well at the bottom
and build shelves for the gas tanks. This is what Cape Dory did in the later models."
After posting the above I spoke to my dad about it. He reminded me that he had also carved two
little blocks out of standard construction grade 2 x 6. These fit in the bottom, around the lower end
of the outboard, plugging the hole. He did not attempt to make them water tight, but just to fair off
the bottom so that the outboard hole didn't scoop the water so badly.
Good Luck
Bruce
Sostenuto cd25 #496
The engine well seems to take on alot of water under power in our 74' CD25 (#76). Is this typical?
Has anyone tried making some kind of a rubber diaphram of sorts to minimize this and without
engine performance problems. I've read and experienced needing to keep the lazaratte hatch open
under power too. Any solutions out there for this as well.
bettb@macomb.cc.mi.us
Bruce
In Reply to: CD25 Engine Well Flooding posted by Don Kolenda on 7/13/1998 at 08:33
Don:
The older Cape Dory 25's had that problem. Here's what I wrote in reply to a similar query a
couple of years ago.
"My dad used to own a 1973 CD 25. I currently own a 77 model. Some significant
improvements were made in the lazarette design somewhere between those years. The old Dory
really did scoop the water! My dad had two solutions (besides keeping the water tank full). The
first was a couple of blocks of lead bullion up in the chain locker. The second was to fill the
lazarette (with two gas tanks in place) with urathane foam. This did cut down on the scooping. A
better solution would be to enlarge the lazartte hatch cover, enclose the motor well at the bottom
and build shelves for the gas tanks. This is what Cape Dory did in the later models."
After posting the above I spoke to my dad about it. He reminded me that he had also carved two
little blocks out of standard construction grade 2 x 6. These fit in the bottom, around the lower end
of the outboard, plugging the hole. He did not attempt to make them water tight, but just to fair off
the bottom so that the outboard hole didn't scoop the water so badly.
Good Luck
Bruce
Sostenuto cd25 #496
The engine well seems to take on alot of water under power in our 74' CD25 (#76). Is this typical?
Has anyone tried making some kind of a rubber diaphram of sorts to minimize this and without
engine performance problems. I've read and experienced needing to keep the lazaratte hatch open
under power too. Any solutions out there for this as well.
JSS wrote:<B>Bruce Bett wrote: You don't get water in the cockpit. You do get water in the engine well. It's an annoying little problem that you may want to fix.
Bruce Bett
Please describe both the <u> problem </u>( water in the engine well) and the <u> fixes </u> in more detail. Thanks.
</B>
bettb@macomb.cc.mi.us