These are a few pics of a recent modification to a CD22. For those who may wish to rid their transom of certain unsightly appendages, I highly recommend the craftsmen at Shaw Yacht Rockland ME. Bernie & Tim are skilled surgeons. This mod is untested, however, it should behave as a less accessible version of the Ty Sr. I'll post in the spring with a performance update. A 6hp Merc (aka: nissan, tohatsu) fits snug.
And yes, I have no idea where I'm going put my cedar bucket now that the lazarette is inhabited by the "thing".
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hope you've all managed to find some time on the water this summer,
Thought I'd pass on some notes about the well-
It's pretty great over-all. Like most things in life, it needs to be tweaked a bit. Hard to do the math, but it looks like this:
It's much, much easier to manage the controls. No more hanging over the transom, looking aft to throw the boat in reverse while approaching large, inanimate objects.
No more back breaking motor-mount yoga with the boat healed over precipitously, once again, facing aft.
The boat looks a lot better, but the transom does appear surprisingly huge in proportion to the rest.
Seems to sail fine, no snagged traps...yet. (driven through thick buoys on the St George River, north of Port Clyde, without incident)
Not much water bubbles up through the port, less upwind-more downwind. Barely at all while under power
Water does splash over the short vertical walls you can see in the pics. I'll create shelves and deck it over on each side this winter.
I do miss all the storage; the aft lazarette was designed by clown-car people. It was amazing what I managed to stuff down there, and now, access is completely gone.
I'm thinking about installing a permanent gas tank beneath the cockpit sole. This way I can claim the existing tank locker, cut the bottom out and add a few bulkheads.
It's either that, or finding a way to mount a tank on the upcoming aft shelves, like in the Ty Sr. However, I'm not crazy about having that kind of weight so far aft. (another good thing about moving the motor inboard, it lightens the end)
If you rely on that space for storage, I'd think real hard before cutting a hole in your boat. I'm serious.
As far as handling goes, I didn't realize how much I relied on (required) the ability to turn the motor 90º to make the boat go where it needed to go. The bow swings hard to starboard in reverse. The opening in the cockpit will expand (via sawsall) over the winter to get a little more turning radius. (I'm tempted to tear out the traveler and build a wider hatch (again, see Ty Sr.).
It's a little noisier, as one might expect from a motor mounted in a glass box, but not terrible. I'll add some acoustic foam to the underside of deck and hatch and try to break up the resonance.
So, these are initial observations. I've only used the boat twice in variable winds, 5-15 knts
If you require maneuverability and healthy storage, this might not be the best modification.
If you like a clean transom, hate motor bracket gymnastics, lie primarily at a mooring, and don't require much locker space for fenders, buckets, trash, etc.,- I highly recommend it.
Thought I'd pass on some notes about the well-
It's pretty great over-all. Like most things in life, it needs to be tweaked a bit. Hard to do the math, but it looks like this:
It's much, much easier to manage the controls. No more hanging over the transom, looking aft to throw the boat in reverse while approaching large, inanimate objects.
No more back breaking motor-mount yoga with the boat healed over precipitously, once again, facing aft.
The boat looks a lot better, but the transom does appear surprisingly huge in proportion to the rest.
Seems to sail fine, no snagged traps...yet. (driven through thick buoys on the St George River, north of Port Clyde, without incident)
Not much water bubbles up through the port, less upwind-more downwind. Barely at all while under power
Water does splash over the short vertical walls you can see in the pics. I'll create shelves and deck it over on each side this winter.
I do miss all the storage; the aft lazarette was designed by clown-car people. It was amazing what I managed to stuff down there, and now, access is completely gone.
I'm thinking about installing a permanent gas tank beneath the cockpit sole. This way I can claim the existing tank locker, cut the bottom out and add a few bulkheads.
It's either that, or finding a way to mount a tank on the upcoming aft shelves, like in the Ty Sr. However, I'm not crazy about having that kind of weight so far aft. (another good thing about moving the motor inboard, it lightens the end)
If you rely on that space for storage, I'd think real hard before cutting a hole in your boat. I'm serious.
As far as handling goes, I didn't realize how much I relied on (required) the ability to turn the motor 90º to make the boat go where it needed to go. The bow swings hard to starboard in reverse. The opening in the cockpit will expand (via sawsall) over the winter to get a little more turning radius. (I'm tempted to tear out the traveler and build a wider hatch (again, see Ty Sr.).
It's a little noisier, as one might expect from a motor mounted in a glass box, but not terrible. I'll add some acoustic foam to the underside of deck and hatch and try to break up the resonance.
So, these are initial observations. I've only used the boat twice in variable winds, 5-15 knts
If you require maneuverability and healthy storage, this might not be the best modification.
If you like a clean transom, hate motor bracket gymnastics, lie primarily at a mooring, and don't require much locker space for fenders, buckets, trash, etc.,- I highly recommend it.
Nice Job
I forgot you had posted these pictures...couple of questions...what kind of material did they use to make that enclosure inside the locker...is it wood or metal?...did they glass over the edges where they cut the hole in the bottom? anything different you would have done now that its over?..with that motor in a somewhat enclosed area do all the exhaust fumes end up in your face?..I have a 22 with a removeable typhoon mount that works fine for my use...thanks again...could you post a couple pictures with the motor in place.
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sorry for the late reply-
The vertical walls are solid glass. As for the opening, the edge was cleaned up and painted with gel-coat along with the rest of locker's interior.
What would I do different? I wouldn't be shy about taking out the entire aft section of the cockpit to better access the controls and get a bit more turning radius. (again, see Ty Sr.) I'll cut back the remaining wall to within 1/2" of the seats this winter.
Hopefully, I'll be out this weekend and I can take a few more pictures of the instal.
Glad to hear you're using the Ty bracket, its an elegant solution. Interested to know if you ever remove the motor(& bracket) while sailing?
Nat
The vertical walls are solid glass. As for the opening, the edge was cleaned up and painted with gel-coat along with the rest of locker's interior.
What would I do different? I wouldn't be shy about taking out the entire aft section of the cockpit to better access the controls and get a bit more turning radius. (again, see Ty Sr.) I'll cut back the remaining wall to within 1/2" of the seats this winter.
Hopefully, I'll be out this weekend and I can take a few more pictures of the instal.
Glad to hear you're using the Ty bracket, its an elegant solution. Interested to know if you ever remove the motor(& bracket) while sailing?
Nat
Motors in the garage
The only time I have the motor and bracket on the boat is when I put Caper in the water in the spring and remove in the fall....I sail from the mooring ball and back to it....I always have an eye to the weather both foul and no wind to make sure I can get back safely...because the only thing I keep onboard is a 7 ft oar...
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Nice job. Looks better than a 25 well!