Questions re asym spinnaker and CDI furler on Typhoon

[new typhooner]

Having reluctantly succumbed to family pressure to add a CDI furler and an asym spinnaker to our Typhoon, I’m now in need of rigging advice! Where do you fasten the block for the tack line of the asym? Is it possible to use the aft hole in the bow plate for the forestay/CDI and try to attach the block for the asym to the forward hole? Will this put too much pressure on the CDI drum? The options seem limited. I’m also curious if you run the tack line to the cockpit and where you cleat it. Similarly, I’m wondering about the furling line for the genoa. Sorry about all the questions, but I’ll really appreciate your input!

[Joe M]

We run our furling line on a series of small pulleys along the starboard toe rail. It terminates at a cam cleat on the deck about 3 ft. aft of the starboard winch. When the jib is furled we coil the line with a long lead and drop it inside the starboard cockpit locker. Its easy to use with a crew or singlehanded and stays out of the way of the genny sheet. If needed I can take some pictures this weekend.

Joe

[Jimmy]

I just finished installing an "A" sail (spinnaker ) on my typhoon.
I have hank on sails. Last week while trying it out for the first time, I had problems with the tac line. The tac block at the front would catch on the headstay and bind up, so pulling it out or getting the chute down was a little bit of a problem. I added a piece of stainless steel to the bow and attached the tac line block to that. Now the block clears the headstay.
I arranged my spinnaker gear to operate like a Melges 20 or 24. I have a square launch bag that hangs in the companionway. I put an internal spinnaker halyard in the mast. It come out on top 6 inches above the forestay. Down below it comes out about 3 inches above where the jib and main halyards come out. I have a bracket and a camcleat mounted to the mast where it exits.
The tac line for the spinnaker goes down the starboard side to a block mid deck then through a hole in the front piece of wood in the cockpit and to a camcleat on the side of the cabin top.
I can set it, fly it and take it down by just standing in the cockpit.
I have pictures of everything except the latest tac line block extension which I can have the next time I get down to the boat.

[sloopjohnl]

my asymetrical has a hasp on the tack line about 2 foot from the tack. this hooks onto the forestay and rides up and down the forestay as the sail is adjusted for various points of sail. i use the aft hole on the stemhead fitting with a block attached and just run the tackline across the deck to a coachroof cleat. since i do not leave the cockpit while the sail is flying the tackline poses no tripping hazard. i used the tang above the forestay for a block for an external spinnaker halyard. check your mast to see if you have one. if you have seen brochures of the different models of typhoons you may have seen the daysailer model with the small cuddy cabin. that model is flying a masthead spinnaker. i often wonder if i made a mistake in not consulting a sailmaker to see if a masthead asymetrical spinnaker was possible on the weekender model.

[Markst95]

I'm interested in why you guys want to go with a spinnaker. Wouldn't a genoa with a whisker pole wing on wing be just as good? I sail in Narragansett bay mostly where the winds are pretty regular but even in just 5 knot winds I can make good headway with a reefed main and working jib. (I always reef when I'm single handing).

[Jimmy]

With the hasp on the forestay can you still launch and take down without going forward?
The other question was , why go with spinnakers, IT'S JUST FUN.

[Jeff and Sarah]

I'm interested in why you guys want to go with a spinnaker. Wouldn't a genoa with a whisker pole wing on wing be just as good? I sail in Narragansett bay mostly where the winds are pretty regular but even in just 5 knot winds I can make good headway with a reefed main and working jib. (I always reef when I'm single handing).

An asymmetrical spinnaker is for sailing relatively high angles downwind- it's not for sailing deep like a traditional spinnaker. Wing on wing only gets you dead downwind so they aren't really interchangeable.

[sloopjohnl]

once the sail is setup on deck and the hasp on the forestay, it launches right off the deck and the hasp has a free run as high or low as you need for any particular point of sail.

in light winds i can fly the asym from a close reach to a very broad reach without the aid of a pole or very close attention to the point of sail to prevent an accidental jibe.

in moderate winds you can douse the main and make good speed downwind with the asym only.

and besides, they are colorful!

[Dick Villamil]

I installed the CDI 1 furler for the 135 genny that I was able to acquire. After making a new forestay (the original remains in the cellar ready to change when I want to go back to the original jib). I attach the forestay to the forward hole in the bow fitting and a small shackle and miniature block. I use a small furling line and after the turning block I lead it along the port side to the cleat on the cabin formerly used for the jib sheet. I was going to install blocks along the toe rail and a cleat on the coaming but the system I have is simple, no additional holes in the deck or toe rail and it works fine. If I could ever figure out how to post photos I would illustrate the system. I also attach the boom vang to a cleat in the bottom track of the mast and it works fine also. After stripping all hardware and wood from the boat and sanding, fairing and painting it - I decided that I would keep the holes in the deck to a minimum - so far - so good!

[Troy Scott]

New Typhooner wrote "Having reluctantly succumbed to family pressure to add a CDI furler and an asym spinnaker to our Typhoon"

Well, I would have been reluctant about the furler, but The aspin is the first thing I would add. I like the "Flasher". Get the sock.