Upcoming survey on CD 25D, tips, what to look for?

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Upcoming survey on CD 25D, tips, what to look for?

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Hopefully soon I will become a new proud owner of a CD 25D. I have been reading what to look for in the survey.

I would like to have some tips and insight about common problems to look in CD 25D form current 25 owners or other CD owners.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks
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Soft deck, cabin balsa core.

Clogged, leaking exhaust elbow.

Rusting external engine oil lines as seen from front of engine. You don't want these to spring a leak!

The rest is the usual stuff.

Best wishes. we love our 25D...
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Dick Kobayashi
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Engine

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A survey typically does not include the running of the engine UNDER LOAD. If your new CD is on the hard it may be worth putting it in the water to see how the engine runs under load in fwd and reverse - all observed by a qualified mechanic. An engine replacement can be easily half the cost of the boat. So prudence dictates a test.

I have had my CD25D for 10 years and after a few years I had to put a new head and exhaust elbow on the engine ($1200) which was worth every penny.

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Joe Myerson
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Randy covered it well

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I've had all the issues that Randy covered.

In addition, look for water streaks on the ceiling (wooden strips on the bulkheads), indicating leaks from either the toe rails or, apparently not uncommonly, the genoa tracks.

Good luck. 25Ds are rare beauties, and you're lucky to have found one.

Just ask Sea Hunt.

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Ceiling streaks

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All of our ceiling streaks came from stanchions and not the toe rail. See if the leaks line up with the stanchion bases. We rebedded and never had another drip.

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Marine Survey questions

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Re: Ceiling streaks

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bhartley wrote:All of our ceiling streaks came from stanchions and not the toe rail. See if the leaks line up with the stanchion bases. We rebedded and never had another drip.

Bly
I think you're right - according the diagram in the manual, the toerail and rubrail screws go into solid glass. They were originally well sealed, too (as I can attest from removing them recently).

I have some ancient leak marks (and one or two active leaks) that I attribute to stanchion bases. I think the outboard screws would go through solid glass, but the inboard ones would penetrate balsa core.
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Cored area

Post by bhartley »

I am pretty sure that the stanchion bases are in uncored deck. I am currently recoring the deck of a 25D and it is solid glass in those areas. I think it may make the leaks down below look even worse since there is not core (thank goodness) to absorb and diffuse the water. Once the bedding is shot under the stanchions, it just flows straight down.

The boat I'm working on is an '84 so there may be variations.

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The BIGGIE

Post by rtbates »

I forgot the most importatnt thing to check.

The EXHAUST ELBOW. These corrode through and cause the head to also corrode. Unfortunately the tube that corrodes is the INNER tube that carries the exhaust down the middle hence it can't be easily seen. Look at the general condition of th eexhaust elbow exterior, ESPECIALLY if this boat lives in salt water.

The results of mine leaking was I had to install a new head as the original had a hole through the exhaust valve area caused by sea water getting through the hole in the elbow and sitting in the exhaust valve area everytime the engine was shut down.

It's cheap insurance. Replace and keep old as a backup.
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