need help installing lazy jacks on CD25
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need help installing lazy jacks on CD25
I would like to install lazy jacks on my CD25. Do you have specific instructions on how to do it and what I need?
- barfwinkle
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Harken PDF
Morning
As I recall you can go to the Harken site and download a pdf file that will give you allot of information concerning placement and the equipment needed. Of course they'll be touting their gear, but you can either order their "kit" or piecemeal a kit of you own and accomplish the same objective.
Fair Winds
As I recall you can go to the Harken site and download a pdf file that will give you allot of information concerning placement and the equipment needed. Of course they'll be touting their gear, but you can either order their "kit" or piecemeal a kit of you own and accomplish the same objective.
Fair Winds
Bill Member #250.
Try this first.
I believe I found this in Good Old Boat magazine.
When your main sail is flaked on the boom tie a small line (fairly tight) from the second reef point to the topping lift. Do the same from the first reef point.
When you are sailing, these lines do not bother anything and almost disappear, but when you drop the main, these lines go a long way to hold your sail on the boom.
It works great on a CD22, I would not consider anything else.
Could work on a CD25 as well.
Easier, next to no cost, no clutter, no maintenance, and it works.
Try it first.
Gary
When your main sail is flaked on the boom tie a small line (fairly tight) from the second reef point to the topping lift. Do the same from the first reef point.
When you are sailing, these lines do not bother anything and almost disappear, but when you drop the main, these lines go a long way to hold your sail on the boom.
It works great on a CD22, I would not consider anything else.
Could work on a CD25 as well.
Easier, next to no cost, no clutter, no maintenance, and it works.
Try it first.
Gary
- Joe Myerson
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Another easy suggestion
Gary's posting is very interesting--and perhaps I'll give it a try.
Since I often reef under way, I sail with both reefing lines rigged. When I'm dropping the main, I sometimes haul in on the reefing lines to keep the dropping sail under a modicum of control.
--Joe
Since I often reef under way, I sail with both reefing lines rigged. When I'm dropping the main, I sometimes haul in on the reefing lines to keep the dropping sail under a modicum of control.
--Joe
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Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
- RIKanaka
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Re: Try this first.
Gary, I assume you're talking about tying lines on either side of the main, running from the reef points on the boom to the topping lift, forming a "poor man's" (or "lazy man's") lazy jack. Where do the lines tie into the topping lift? Sounds like a great idea. I just can't quite visualize it precisely.Gary M wrote:I believe I found this in Good Old Boat magazine.
When your main sail is flaked on the boom tie a small line (fairly tight) from the second reef point to the topping lift. Do the same from the first reef point.
Gary
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Bob Chinn
Bob Chinn
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Hello Linda:
It is my recollection that one of our contributors, Carter Brey, (who used to own a Cape Dory 25 and now is a "brand X" owner ) designed and installed a really cool "retractable" lazy jack system. I want to say that he also posted either photos or diagrams (sketches) of the installation, etc. I think there were green, red, black diagram lines, etc.
I am not very computer literate (it took me 6 months to learn how to turn on a computer ). I tried, unsuccessfully, to search for Carter's posting on retractable lazy jacks.
If you do a search I am sure you can find it or perhaps someone else can find it and provide the website location.
It would be well worth the effort. Carter's retractable lazy jack system looked simple, elegant and easy to use.
It is my recollection that one of our contributors, Carter Brey, (who used to own a Cape Dory 25 and now is a "brand X" owner ) designed and installed a really cool "retractable" lazy jack system. I want to say that he also posted either photos or diagrams (sketches) of the installation, etc. I think there were green, red, black diagram lines, etc.
I am not very computer literate (it took me 6 months to learn how to turn on a computer ). I tried, unsuccessfully, to search for Carter's posting on retractable lazy jacks.
If you do a search I am sure you can find it or perhaps someone else can find it and provide the website location.
It would be well worth the effort. Carter's retractable lazy jack system looked simple, elegant and easy to use.
Fair winds,
Roberto
a/k/a Sea Hunt "The Tadpole Sailor"
CDSOA #1097
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Roberto
a/k/a Sea Hunt "The Tadpole Sailor"
CDSOA #1097
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"I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778, as quoted in Naval History and Heritage Command, http://www.history.navy.mil
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Hello again Linda:
I asked one of my "computer geek" buddies for help. It took him about 30 seconds to find the links. Embarassing.
http://www.slowflight.net/upgrades/lazy ... ow-to.html
http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic ... ht=#124551
It seems I was only 1/2 right - that's pretty good for me. Carter did not "invent" the system. He did install it on his Sabre 28 and posted the above installation link.
Hope this helps a little.
I asked one of my "computer geek" buddies for help. It took him about 30 seconds to find the links. Embarassing.
http://www.slowflight.net/upgrades/lazy ... ow-to.html
http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic ... ht=#124551
It seems I was only 1/2 right - that's pretty good for me. Carter did not "invent" the system. He did install it on his Sabre 28 and posted the above installation link.
Hope this helps a little.
Fair winds,
Roberto
a/k/a Sea Hunt "The Tadpole Sailor"
CDSOA #1097
________________________________
"I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778, as quoted in Naval History and Heritage Command, http://www.history.navy.mil
Roberto
a/k/a Sea Hunt "The Tadpole Sailor"
CDSOA #1097
________________________________
"I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778, as quoted in Naval History and Heritage Command, http://www.history.navy.mil
"Poor man's lazy jack" (better discription)
On ZackLee the set up goes like this.
One light line is tied to the second reef cringle on the main sail leech. This line is led to and tied to the boom topping lift. The line should be fairly snug but the knot should be open enough to let the line slide up the topping lift when the main is raised,
One light line is tied the same way from the first reef cringle on the leech to the boom topping lift.
Before raising the main make sure there is nothing on the topping lift like a knot or something that will stop the lines from sliding up the topping lift.
When I raise my main sail these two knots securing the lines to the topping lift slide right up and become very slack. They do not interfere with the sail at all and as a matter of fact they are really not even noticable.
When I drop the sail the two reef cringles are prevented from dropping lower then the boom which pretty much holds my whole sail on the boom and out of the cockpit. Lowering the sail is a breeze. I've had friends see me do it and think I must have lazy jacks.
I don't know how big the sail must before this system will not work but on a CD22 it works great. I love it.
Gary
One light line is tied to the second reef cringle on the main sail leech. This line is led to and tied to the boom topping lift. The line should be fairly snug but the knot should be open enough to let the line slide up the topping lift when the main is raised,
One light line is tied the same way from the first reef cringle on the leech to the boom topping lift.
Before raising the main make sure there is nothing on the topping lift like a knot or something that will stop the lines from sliding up the topping lift.
When I raise my main sail these two knots securing the lines to the topping lift slide right up and become very slack. They do not interfere with the sail at all and as a matter of fact they are really not even noticable.
When I drop the sail the two reef cringles are prevented from dropping lower then the boom which pretty much holds my whole sail on the boom and out of the cockpit. Lowering the sail is a breeze. I've had friends see me do it and think I must have lazy jacks.
I don't know how big the sail must before this system will not work but on a CD22 it works great. I love it.
Gary
- Jim Cornwell
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Register one vote for E-Z Jax. Simple installation (well, somebody's got to go aloft to install cheek blocks with any system). Retractable. Entirely satisfactory on Yankee. Jim.
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good old boat
There is a great article in good old boat magazine that explains in great detail how to set up inexpensive, and functional lazy jacks... and they can be stowed against the boom/mast when the sail cover is on.
looks great, i plan to try it in the fall.
looks great, i plan to try it in the fall.
Ben Coombs
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Hey Ben...
Can you tell me what issue that is in?
Thanks!
Stan Freihofer
Can you tell me what issue that is in?
Thanks!
Stan Freihofer
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What Seahunt said
Hi Linda,
Carter is a good friend of mine. After we spoke about skip's easy lazyjacks, I installed the same type on my cd25. They work very well and the cost is quite low.
I can't recommend them enough.
They are fantastic.
-henry
Carter is a good friend of mine. After we spoke about skip's easy lazyjacks, I installed the same type on my cd25. They work very well and the cost is quite low.
I can't recommend them enough.
They are fantastic.
-henry
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good old boat article
july/aug 2010 issue... claims that they are easily rigged for under $100
good luck
good luck
Ben Coombs