Plastic Add On "Self Tailers"
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Plastic Add On "Self Tailers"
Hi,
Has anyone tried the blue plastic attachments to make winches self tailing? Any experiences? Any reviews?
Jon
s/v Sovereign
CD-25 #625
Ringj@mediaone.net
Has anyone tried the blue plastic attachments to make winches self tailing? Any experiences? Any reviews?
Jon
s/v Sovereign
CD-25 #625
Ringj@mediaone.net
Re: Plastic Add On "Self Tailers"
i put them on my cd 26 upon the recommendation of a slip neighbor. i was not expecting much. i was amazed that they really do work remarkably well. i use them all the time while daysailing without cleating the sheet. in stronger winds, i do throw a loop on the cleat for extra insurance, but they generally hold. they hold the line well enough that you have to throw off a turn to ease the sheet unless you are actually loosening it around the drum by hand.Jon wrote: Hi,
Has anyone tried the blue plastic attachments to make winches self tailing? Any experiences? Any reviews?
Jon
s/v Sovereign
CD-25 #625
john
one other thing
john churchill wrote: i forgot to mention that they are a bitch to get on. take them to the galley and boil them, not just for a sec either, more like macaroni. when they are nice and floppy slap 'em on real quick, use dish detergent as lubricant and wear gloves as they are hot. in my experience, you have about 15 seconds to get them on before they cool too much. you can actually do it without jimmying with a screwdriver.
Re: one other thing
John,john wrote:john churchill wrote: i forgot to mention that they are a bitch to get on. take them to the galley and boil them, not just for a sec either, more like macaroni. when they are nice and floppy slap 'em on real quick, use dish detergent as lubricant and wear gloves as they are hot. in my experience, you have about 15 seconds to get them on before they cool too much. you can actually do it without jimmying with a screwdriver.
What size and make are your winches? Following the size recommendations of the manufacturer, I bought the smallest size "Winchers" for the Barlow/15 winches on my CD25. They were too large and fit very loose on the winches. When I called the manufacturer, he seemed aware of this problem and said to wrap duct tape around top of winches for a snug fit. I didn't like the idea of a jury rig, so I returned them. I would still like to give them a try if I could get some that fit. Has anyone else out there had a similar experience?
Regards, bill
wawillis@shore.intercom.net
Re: Plastic Add On "Self Tailers"
Jon,
I have "winchers" on my CD27 and they work better than expected,I have not used the cleats since I installed them,one of the cheapest and most usefull improvements I have made to my CD.Well worth the money.
Jerry Albright
CD27 "DOLPHIN"
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I have "winchers" on my CD27 and they work better than expected,I have not used the cleats since I installed them,one of the cheapest and most usefull improvements I have made to my CD.Well worth the money.
Jerry Albright
CD27 "DOLPHIN"
nauticalw@aol.com
Re: one other thing
John,john wrote:john churchill wrote: i forgot to mention that they are a bitch to get on. take them to the galley and boil them, not just for a sec either, more like macaroni. when they are nice and floppy slap 'em on real quick, use dish detergent as lubricant and wear gloves as they are hot. in my experience, you have about 15 seconds to get them on before they cool too much. you can actually do it without jimmying with a screwdriver.
I bought them last week and spent a good 2 hours trying to get them on my Lewmar 7 winches. Couldn't do it. Your right about having to boil them. I wasn't "set up" to do that when I tried to get them on, so I'll have to give it a go this week.
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Exactly!
Bill,
That is exactly what I had in mind; a set of size 1 Winchers atop the Barlow 15s on my CD-25. I'm glad I checked in on this.
Thanks All,
Jon
Ringj@mediaone.net
That is exactly what I had in mind; a set of size 1 Winchers atop the Barlow 15s on my CD-25. I'm glad I checked in on this.
Thanks All,
Jon

Ringj@mediaone.net
Installation Hint Re: Plastic Add On "Self Tailers"
Just a hint from my experience
When I went to disassemble my Lewmar 16s for maintenance last winter I noticed that the entire top flange of the winch is removeable. The Winchers are immensely easier to install if you can remove that top flange and then insert it into the Wincher from the top. Then reassemble the winch with the Wincher in place. Saves boiling and hours of struggle but only if the winch is of a design that can be so disassembled.
Bill
goldy@bestweb.net
When I went to disassemble my Lewmar 16s for maintenance last winter I noticed that the entire top flange of the winch is removeable. The Winchers are immensely easier to install if you can remove that top flange and then insert it into the Wincher from the top. Then reassemble the winch with the Wincher in place. Saves boiling and hours of struggle but only if the winch is of a design that can be so disassembled.
Bill
Jon wrote: Hi,
Has anyone tried the blue plastic attachments to make winches self tailing? Any experiences? Any reviews?
Jon
s/v Sovereign
CD-25 #625
goldy@bestweb.net
Re: Exactly!
Jon,Jon wrote: Bill,
That is exactly what I had in mind; a set of size 1 Winchers atop the Barlow 15s on my CD-25. I'm glad I checked in on this.
Thanks All,
Jon
I have them on my CD25 and they work great, although I did use soap to install, I did not boil them. You may want to be sure you can return them if they don't fit, but the Wincher was the best buy I've gotten since owning the boat. ( 3 yrs.)
Good luck,
Tim
Re: Exactly!
Tim,
Did you have to tape up the winches to get them to fit? Are you using Barlow 15 on your CD-25? Are they size 1 Winchers?
Jon
Ringj@mediaone.net
Did you have to tape up the winches to get them to fit? Are you using Barlow 15 on your CD-25? Are they size 1 Winchers?
Jon
Ringj@mediaone.net
Re: one other thing
i just tried the small size in my typhoon which has lewmar 6 winches. they were to loose for my liking , abit sketchy and no grip either on the winch or inside the wincher. my sheets were too small to get any grip. i'll be returning them and spending my energy on cam cleats for my genoa sheets. Pat B
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