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Post by Oswego John »

[quote Chris and Dale Schell]
Back to the original inquiry. Let's forget that the sales brochure calls it a daysailer and I'll call it a weekender so that's not the focus. I believe it was the next year, 1970, that Cape Dory removed all the mahogany, added scuppers and lazarettes, deck stepped mast, and moved the tiller totally into the cockpit, which would constitute a signifigant design change to me, and was essentially the new design going forward in production.

So, does anyone out there have or know of someone who has a 1969 or earlier Alberg Typhoon (weekender) w/o scuppers, with all the mahogany and slatted seats, thru deck stepped mast, like ours? Or is this the last of this design left as far as the CDSAO membership knows?

Also, I never did hear what the "pre 1967" in the registry meant. Anyone know or is it a default if left blank?

Thanks Everyone!
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Chris & Dale Schnell
s/v MISS DALE, #27
1969 Alberg Typhoon Daysailer
Southport, NC[/quote]

Chris,

Say what you want but an important part of the focus on this thread is striving for correctness. You have been calling your sailboat a Daysailer when it is a Weekender, a completely different entity.

I previously mentioned in an earlier post that the makers of the Ty used teak trim, not mahogany.

I both own Ty Weekenders as you describe as well as know someone else who owns one. I have two of them sitting in my yard at the present time and have as recently as in the last two years sold two other early Tys that I had rehabbed.

For the record, not all CDs are of the Alberg design but all Tys were designed by Alberg.

The Ty Weekender was first built in the early and mid sixties by Naugus Fiberglass Industries. That was in Salem, Mass.

Sometime around 1968 (not sure of exact date) the right to build the Ty Weekender was transferred from Naugus Industries over to Cape Dory Mfg Co.

From the onset of Cape Dory now making the Weekender, changes in the Ty were being made bit by bit from the original Ty.

The Naugus hull numbers ceased and Cape Dory initiated a new set of numbers. The design of the Naugus hull plate was also changed from a squarish shaped bronze plaque to the new Cape Dory oval design.

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In the following years, the Weekender became very popular in the sailing community and Cape Dory introduced other models of the Typhoon. They then produced two models of the Daysailer. One had a completely open cockpit and another version had a small cuddy cabin for storage.

The weekender was Type D.
The completely open cockpit Daysailer with no cuddy was type G.
The Daysailer with a small cuddy became type K.

I hope that this sheds some light on the subject.

Sorry Warren for the disruption of your thread.

O J
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Post by Al Levesque »

This is very interesting history, especially since it happened right here in Salem. I saw an older Typhoon here in Salem Harbor within the last few years and wish I had examined it further. I haven't seen it this year and maybe not last year either. It had the slatted seats and was not self-bailing. I don't recall any other details.

The name Naugus must have been taken from Naugus Head which is on the Marblehead side of Salem Harbor.
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Post by Chris & Dale Schnell »

OJ,
I'm trying really hard to not get irritated w/you lecturing me about correctness (when you write in ambiguity about early and mid 60's, sometime around 1968 when the CDSOA shows 1967, etc., and teak versus mahogany when I have a sales brochure that specifically states mahogany, etc.). Maybe when CD began their production in 67 or 68 they started w/mahogany (as they state in the brochure) and then changed to teak a couple of year later.

And it's SCHNELL, not Schell. Putting that aside...

I just posted a response in the other thread. I too like being accurate and conceeding my error of the written word, have even gone and changed my signature line, etc., to weekender.

I was totally unaware of the Naugus production of Ty's you referred to. I will have to do some reading on them. Where all your TY's of the vintage w/slatted seats, etc.? Would love to see pictures of the Naugus version.

I've owned a CD25, a CD30, and now a TY Weekender....I know Alberg didn't design all CD's.

I've had some many previous or current TY owners stop by our slip and say they've never seen one like ours.

Anyway, I think this has seen its useful life.
Full Sails & Calm Seas,

Chris & Dale Schnell
s/v MISS DALE, #27
1969 Alberg Typhoon Weekender
Southport, NC
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