Has anyone had any experience with the type of sail storage bag that hangs from the fore stay. Does this type of sail bag adaquately protect the jib. It looks like the sail will be crammed in the bag and then rain can get in and mildew the sail. I would like to know if the bag is worth the money or save enought time to make it worth while or can it do more harm to the sail that storing the sail below. I know someone will have an opinion on this.
Thanks
Jim Kingrea
Typhoon
"Nipper"
Sail Bag for Jib
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sloopjohnl
Re: Sail Bag for Jib
jim,
my marina neighbor has one on a 23' san juan. like you think he crams the sail in (no folding, no rolling). takes him as long to do the cramming as it does me to take down and fold my hanked-on. it probably keeps out a majority of the water out and he does not seem to have mildew. just a ton of wrinkles when he hoists. personally i think it looks out of place and of the 600 boats in our marina i would say there are probably only 3 or 4 of them being used.
west marine sells them if you're interested.
my marina neighbor has one on a 23' san juan. like you think he crams the sail in (no folding, no rolling). takes him as long to do the cramming as it does me to take down and fold my hanked-on. it probably keeps out a majority of the water out and he does not seem to have mildew. just a ton of wrinkles when he hoists. personally i think it looks out of place and of the 600 boats in our marina i would say there are probably only 3 or 4 of them being used.
west marine sells them if you're interested.
Jim Kingrea wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the type of sail storage bag that hangs from the fore stay. Does this type of sail bag adaquately protect the jib. It looks like the sail will be crammed in the bag and then rain can get in and mildew the sail. I would like to know if the bag is worth the money or save enought time to make it worth while or can it do more harm to the sail that storing the sail below. I know someone will have an opinion on this.
Thanks
Jim Kingrea
Typhoon
"Nipper"
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John
Re: Sail Bag for Jib
Jim
My CD came with a very well made jib bag as you describe. Some time, although not a lot, is saved by not having to hank on the sail every time (you still have to run the sheets, clip on the halyard and hoist the sail). The jib halyard is attached to the aft end of the bag, then hoisted a few feet aloft. This keeps the bag and sail off of the deck and allows moisture to run off. I haven't had any more mildew problems than with sails stored below. In terms of folding, there is a technique for properly folding a sail into one of these type bags. If you follow it, the sail will not wrinkle any more than in any other bag. Personally, I'd gladly trade any bag in for a good roller furler!
My CD came with a very well made jib bag as you describe. Some time, although not a lot, is saved by not having to hank on the sail every time (you still have to run the sheets, clip on the halyard and hoist the sail). The jib halyard is attached to the aft end of the bag, then hoisted a few feet aloft. This keeps the bag and sail off of the deck and allows moisture to run off. I haven't had any more mildew problems than with sails stored below. In terms of folding, there is a technique for properly folding a sail into one of these type bags. If you follow it, the sail will not wrinkle any more than in any other bag. Personally, I'd gladly trade any bag in for a good roller furler!
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Bill
Re: Sail Bag for Jib
For some reason, I think the jib bag on the foredeck looks salty..... Go Figure..... I roll mine fairly well and yes it is wrinkled, but they do "shake" themselves out after a short period of use. I guess the process may be damaging the sail, but I would have to ask someone with more experience than I.
Fair winds
Bill
cd25d@rhapsodysails.com
Fair winds
Bill
Jim Kingrea wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the type of sail storage bag that hangs from the fore stay. Does this type of sail bag adaquately protect the jib. It looks like the sail will be crammed in the bag and then rain can get in and mildew the sail. I would like to know if the bag is worth the money or save enought time to make it worth while or can it do more harm to the sail that storing the sail below. I know someone will have an opinion on this.
Thanks
Jim Kingrea
Typhoon
"Nipper"
cd25d@rhapsodysails.com
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M. R. Bober
Re: Sail Bag for Jib
RESPITE had a "turtle sack" for her yankee. I found the only positive was not having to stow the sail below. IMHO the negatives are: 1) It's a pain in the foot to close the sack, 2) It swings constantly, 3) The extra windage causes lots of swinging while at anchor, 4) It's in the way when deploying/retrieving the anchor.
Mine is now in the attic (Cape Dory Brown--make me an offer). I replaced the darn thing with a ProFurl roller.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
thebobers@erols.com
Mine is now in the attic (Cape Dory Brown--make me an offer). I replaced the darn thing with a ProFurl roller.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
thebobers@erols.com
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Jim Kingrea
Re: Sail Bag for Jib
Thanks for the information. Sounds like the bag doesn't provide much advantage over the original sail bag.Jim Kingrea wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the type of sail storage bag that hangs from the fore stay. Does this type of sail bag adaquately protect the jib. It looks like the sail will be crammed in the bag and then rain can get in and mildew the sail. I would like to know if the bag is worth the money or save enought time to make it worth while or can it do more harm to the sail that storing the sail below. I know someone will have an opinion on this.
Thanks
Jim Kingrea
Typhoon
Jim Kingrea
"Nipper"
Jim Kingrea wrote: "Nipper"
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Scott Ritchey
Re: Sail Bag for Jib
I have to disagree with the others. The facts are OK. But I think these bags have advantages.
First, it gets the sail out of the cabin. Second, it really speeds up raising the sail. I connect the tack and rig sheets before leaving the slip. Then it's easy to move the halyard to the head of the sail and raise it.
With the halyard cliped to the bag and raised, it keeps the sail above the cleats while handling dock lines.
It avoids the cost of furling gear and the risk of failure, like halyard raps. Avoigs having to modify the sail. Keeps head sail changes fairly easy.
In the end, it's a matter of opinion.
RitcheyVS@aol.com
First, it gets the sail out of the cabin. Second, it really speeds up raising the sail. I connect the tack and rig sheets before leaving the slip. Then it's easy to move the halyard to the head of the sail and raise it.
With the halyard cliped to the bag and raised, it keeps the sail above the cleats while handling dock lines.
It avoids the cost of furling gear and the risk of failure, like halyard raps. Avoigs having to modify the sail. Keeps head sail changes fairly easy.
In the end, it's a matter of opinion.
Jim Kingrea wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the type of sail storage bag that hangs from the fore stay. Does this type of sail bag adaquately protect the jib. It looks like the sail will be crammed in the bag and then rain can get in and mildew the sail. I would like to know if the bag is worth the money or save enought time to make it worth while or can it do more harm to the sail that storing the sail below. I know someone will have an opinion on this.
Thanks
Jim Kingrea
Typhoon
"Nipper"
RitcheyVS@aol.com
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brent musof
Re: Sail Bag for Jib
Jim,
On a boat as small as the typhoon I think you will find that it is an advantage having a jib bag. I had a typhoon and a jib bag and loved it, especially if you anchor out a bit. The ty bounces around a bit when anchored and the side decks are rather small. It was nice to know that the jib was always attached and I did not have to worry about going swimming for the jib it I took a bad step while moving about.
Brent Musolf
docmusolf@wnol.net
On a boat as small as the typhoon I think you will find that it is an advantage having a jib bag. I had a typhoon and a jib bag and loved it, especially if you anchor out a bit. The ty bounces around a bit when anchored and the side decks are rather small. It was nice to know that the jib was always attached and I did not have to worry about going swimming for the jib it I took a bad step while moving about.
Brent Musolf
docmusolf@wnol.net