request typhoon trailer measurements

[wingreen]

Hello all,

I'm preparing to order a new trailer for my Typhoon, but my Ty is inaccessible for the moment. I wonder if one of the Ty owners on the forum can provide some measurements so I can place the order? The company that makes the trailer is called "Trail N Sail", which appears to be a subsidiary of Road King Trailers. Their form for sailboat measurements is linked here:

http://www.trailnsail.com/measurement%20chart.htm

It looks like they need:

1. distance from bottom front of keel to back of boat
2. distance from bottom back of keel to back of boat
3. vertical distance from bottom of keel to bow eye
4. depth of keel (from bottom of keel to where the keel curves out)
5. distance from bottom of keel to hull at 30" from side of keel.
6. width of keel at bottom of keel

Thanks for your help.

[sharkbait]

Do a search on this site. I posted all of those measurements about a year ago. Can't do it now because I am no where near the house and the boat.

[wingreen]

Are these the threads you were referring to:

http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic ... ht=trailer
http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic ... ht=trailer
http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic ... ht=trailer

for some reason they didn't turn up in my original search, which found the following thread:

http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic ... ht=trailer

Although the manufacturer should be able to make the trailer with the information in those posts, they have their own measurements that they need in their form (linked in first post).

I suppose I can email the manufacturer sprocket80's pics and see if they can work with those.

[Oswego John]

Hello all,

I'm preparing to order a new trailer for my Typhoon, but my Ty is inaccessible for the moment. I wonder if one of the Ty owners on the forum can provide some measurements so I can place the order? The company that makes the trailer is called "Trail N Sail", which appears to be a subsidiary of Road King Trailers. Their form for sailboat measurements is linked here:

http://www.trailnsail.com/measurement%20chart.htm

It looks like they need:

1. distance from bottom front of keel to back of boat
2. distance from bottom back of keel to back of boat
3. vertical distance from bottom of keel to bow eye
4. depth of keel (from bottom of keel to where the keel curves out)
5. distance from bottom of keel to hull at 30" from side of keel.
6. width of keel at bottom of keel
Thanks for your help.

Hi Wingreen,

I just measured one of my Tys and came up with these measurements. FWIW, These measurements are CLOSE to what you are looking for. There is no way that I can give measurements on curved surfaces without given a definitive point to measure from. As you know, the Ty's lower hull is ALL curves.

I might add that some of the required measurements being sought are invalid with a full keel boat. So here are some approximations.

1. Distance from bottom front of keel to back of boat? 9' = 108"

2. Distance from bottom back of keel to back of boat? 5'-1"= 61"

3. Vertical distance from bottom of keel to bow eye? No eye. (actually measured to forestay plate). 5'-61/2" = 661/2"

4. Depth of keel (from bottom of keel to where the keel curves out.
1'- 51/2" = 171/2"

5. Distance from bottom of keel to hull at 30" from side of keel? This is an invalid question. For a Ty, 30" is too great a distance for a hull support. This would give you no purchase at all. It is almost to the freeboard.

On the Triad trailer that my Ty is resting on, the centers of the rear adjustable pads are 23" out from the keel. The front adjustable pads are 20" out from the keel.

6. Width of keel at bottom of keel? This is difficult to measure. On the Triad trailer, the Ty keel sits in a padded steel channel iron trough that measures 81/2" I.D.

I hope that this can give you some insight into your new rrailers requirements.

Good luck,
O J

[wingreen]

OJ, you salty dog! I haven't noticed your new mug since coming back to the forum - nice pic!

Thanks for the measurements. I think what I'm going to do it forward them along to the trailer manufacturer along with the pics from sprocket80's old thread, and the explanations you have provided. I believe they manufacture their trailers with some adjustability built-in, according to their website. They may even have specs for the Typhoon on file.

[Sea Hunt]

They may even have specs for the Typhoon on file.

Hello Wingreen:

It is my recollection someone on this board recommended these trailers and said he (or she) had purchased one for a Typhoon Weekender made from Trail N Sail. I think this thread was about 2 years ago around the time that I purchased S/V Tadpole.

I had forgotten all about Trail N Sail. If you have one made for your Ty Weekender I would be grateful to know the results, costs, level of satisfaction, customer service, etc. I am still trying to decide whether to buy a trailer for S/V Tadpole. There seem to be an equal number of "pros" and "cons". They have a factory in Ocala, Florida. A lot closer than Raleigh, NC (Triad's factory).

Good luck Please keep us updated.

[Sea Hunt]

Wingreen:

Below is a thread that suggests "John Martin" purchased a Trail N Sail for his Ty Weekender. You may want to check with him.

http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic ... trailnsail

Here is another thread from "Lew Gresham" about "Road King Trailers". I believe they are the "parent company" ( ) for Train N Sail.

http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic ... ohn+martin

[wingreen]

Thanks for the thread references, Sea Hunt. Trail N Sail is quoting prices in the ballpark of $2,300 - $2,400 for a galvanized, single-axle with a mast crutch. I like the Ocala location, but if Triad can do much better, I might consider them, especially since they seem to know the right specs for the Typhoon. Come to think of it, I may call up Road King and ask if they have the proper specs for the Typhoon on file. If they don't, perhaps they can find the specs if I remind them about John Martin?

[Sea Hunt]

Hello Wingreen:

Last week I got Triad quotes for a Ty Weekender of:

$2,930 with brakes for lift off trailer

$2,555 without brakes for lift off trailer

There are then a bunch of "add ons" which cost additional:

spare tire, tongue extension, ladder, bracket for mast, LED lights, etc.

Triad has made a lot of Ty Weekender trailers. They have a picture of one on their website.

I am pretty sure Trail N Sail has made several trailers for Ty Weekenders as well.

[Oswego John]

Hi Wingreen, Robert, and all,

It makes no difference to me as to who you get your trailer from. I know that there are several reputable manufacturers out there. Here's the way I see it.

As previously mentioned, I own a Triad. I have also owned other trailers that came with some of the project boats I have bought in the past. Some had adjustable pads, others had bunk supports. My own preference is adjustable pads. (poppets)

The initial cost of the trailer is forgotton long after the quality and extra amenities remain. You should honestly ask yourself "why am I buying a trailer?" Is it for towing long distances or for just a few miles twice a spring and fall, from the home to the town dock? Or could it be possible that the Ty will remain in the local boatyard?

Do you plan on having a travel lift or crane to launch the boat, or will you be using a ramp to launch and remove the boat. Have you ever had thoughts of becoming a "trailer sailor" and explore other bodies of water that somehow have appealed to you?

Do you plan to spend the rest of your life living and sailing where you presently do now? Could a move be in the forseeable future? All of these things and more should be considered in the purchase of a new trailer and what extras might be added on to the basic package.

At the end of the season I ramp load my Ty on its trailer and tow it to where I live. The money that I save on storage and hoisting in all these years have paid in spades much more than the extra cost of the extras I had included with the basic trailer.

My boat is handy to work on it at my leisure. My marine insurance covers it en route and in the water. It is also covered for the rest of the year by my homeowners insurance rider.

Several of my out of state friends like the idea of being able to retrieve their boat in a moments notice and get out od Dodge when a hurricane is predicted. They don't get caught in the log jam of those who are waiting in turn for the crane.

So weigh all things to arrive at a decision of what to add on or not. I am very happy and satisfied that I included the extras in my purchase.

Good luck,
O J

[wingreen]

Thanks for the help, Sea Hunt & OJ. I think I have enough to go forward with this.

BTW, how's life in Wingreentown, NY these days, OJ?

[wingreen]

Sooo, long story short - I bought the Road King trailer from the Ocala, FL manufacturing plant, and it was delivered last week. It seems to be a fine trailer, but I had to build my own mast support, since the manufacturer blew the order and wanted to charge me an extra $500 to go back and do it right, the way I ordered it. $500 for a 4' piece of metal to prop up the mast? No thanks. So I suppose this is a good news/ bad news report. I do want to give a commendation for Barry's Trailers in Sarasota for arranging the whole deal and advocating for me on the blown order, although the manufacturer ultimately proved unrepentant. Barry's is great, and I'd recommend them for Bay Area trailer sailors.

The measurements you all provided were great, but ultimately were unnecessary since Road King has the specs for the Typhoon on file. The trailer was a good fit for the Ty, although it did require a few minutes of adjusting the skids so they fit the hull. I would not recommend attempting to do this at the ramp - you definitely want to take some measurements and make the adjustments before you change trailers.

Although my ship's been ship-shape, I really couldn't do anything with her until I put her on a road-worthy trailer. It should be a trailer-sailor's maxim - "You don't sail the trailer, but you don't sail without it, either." I'm happy to be sailing the seas again.

[sprocket80]

Been a long time since I have posted here, so I hope it comes through correctly. I never got that Typhoon I was after, but here is a link to the pics of the trailer specs. (text must be copied and pasted into a browser window)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41949327@N03/

This drawing, along with the photos posted by others in this thread should be enough to build a trailer to fit your Ty. If the link doesn't work,email me directly at sprocket80@mail.com

[wingreen]

Been a long time since I have posted here, so I hope it comes through correctly. I never got that Typhoon I was after, but here is a link to the pics of the trailer specs. (text must be copied and pasted into a browser window)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41949327@N03/

This drawing, along with the photos posted by others in this thread should be enough to build a trailer to fit your Ty. If the link doesn't work,email me directly at sprocket80@mail.com

Thanks for the link, sprocket. I recall that we reviewed your specs way back when I was putting my order together. The trailer Road King made for me looks a lot like the one in your specs.

[sprocket80]

Wingreen,

I posted before reading the entire thread. I am glad you got your trailer needs fulfilled.