Jiffy Reefing.

[Warren Kaplan]

Please forgive a rather elementary question about jiffy reefing. I reefed many a sailboat before but never using jiffy reefing. The mechanics of jiffy reefing are straight forward and obvious. My question is NOT about "how to jiffy reef." My question is: when you normally set the mainsail on a normal (non reefing to start anyway) day, do you still lead the reefing lines thru the luff reef cringle and the leach reef cringle, and just leave them slack so the sail shape isn't compromised when the sail is fully hoisted? My reason for asking is this. Jiffy reefing is supposed to be very rapid and I'm sure it is. When a reefing situation arises partially dropping the sail to first lead the lines thru the cringles obviously takes time and could prove "difficult" in a blow with the sail flapping around in a strong wind. So the question is, How do you routinely rig your mainsail in respect to jiffy reefing lines. Also, any recommendations for a "ram's horn" for the gooseneck? Is it difficult to install?
Thanks
Warren
CD27 "Sine Qua Non"
Hull #166



Setsail728@aol.com

[Neil Gordon]

>>...do you still lead the reefing lines thru the luff reef cringle and the leach reef cringle, and just leave them slack...<<

Yes. All I need to reef is to lower the main and pull in on the reefing line. Even in calm conditions, it's also a way to tame the main when it comes down at the end of the day. I lower fully, take in the reefing line and have a lot less main on deck.

>>Also, any recommendations for a "ram's horn" for the gooseneck?<<

None on LIQUIDITY. All is secured by the line through the luff cringle... led up from a fitting on the mast, through the cringle, then down to a cleat.


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167



neil@nrgordon.com

[sloopjohnl]

reefing lines are always rigged and ready to deploy. you never know when you will need them.
on my typhoon i attached a tack hook on the boom near the gooseneck to capture the cringle of the main. i don't think a rams horn would work here.

[Dana]

First a description of what I have...CD26, tack hook on forward section of boom under luff reefing cringle. leech reefing line from near tack hook location running aft on side of boom (thru eyelets) to turning block on side of boom just aft and under leech reefing cringle, line runs up thru leech cringle and back down to pad eye ring on other side of boom, have topping lift from end of boom to mast head and down to small mast cleat.

Action: Turn boat slightly off eye of wind, still moving forward. Ease off main hayard with right hand while left hand grabs sail luff at reefing cringle point. Topping lift "holds" boom fairly horizontal during operation. "Slip" leech cringle over tack hook with left hand. Retension main hayard. Grab leech reefing line at forward cleat (tack location) and pull. Leech cringle is automatically pulled down to boom. Tie up leech reefing line to cleat. clean up reefing lines along boom....

Please forgive a rather elementary question about jiffy reefing. I reefed many a sailboat before but never using jiffy reefing. The mechanics of jiffy reefing are straight forward and obvious. My question is NOT about "how to jiffy reef." My question is: when you normally set the mainsail on a normal (non reefing to start anyway) day, do you still lead the reefing lines thru the luff reef cringle and the leach reef cringle, and just leave them slack so the sail shape isn't compromised when the sail is fully hoisted? My reason for asking is this. Jiffy reefing is supposed to be very rapid and I'm sure it is. When a reefing situation arises partially dropping the sail to first lead the lines thru the cringles obviously takes time and could prove "difficult" in a blow with the sail flapping around in a strong wind. So the question is, How do you routinely rig your mainsail in respect to jiffy reefing lines. Also, any recommendations for a "ram's horn" for the gooseneck? Is it difficult to install?
Thanks
Warren
CD27 "Sine Qua Non"
Hull #166

darenius@aol.com

[Dana]

PS....it is all preinstalled and ready to go for all reefing points. Second reef point has smae stuff but on other side of boom. Lines up to leech cringles just have a small amount of slack in them during normal sailing....

Dana

First a description of what I have...CD26, tack hook on forward section of boom under luff reefing cringle. leech reefing line from near tack hook location running aft on side of boom (thru eyelets) to turning block on side of boom just aft and under leech reefing cringle, line runs up thru leech cringle and back down to pad eye ring on other side of boom, have topping lift from end of boom to mast head and down to small mast cleat.

Action: Turn boat slightly off eye of wind, still moving forward. Ease off main hayard with right hand while left hand grabs sail luff at reefing cringle point. Topping lift "holds" boom fairly horizontal during operation. "Slip" leech cringle over tack hook with left hand. Retension main hayard. Grab leech reefing line at forward cleat (tack location) and pull. Leech cringle is automatically pulled down to boom. Tie up leech reefing line to cleat. clean up reefing lines along boom....

Please forgive a rather elementary question about jiffy reefing. I reefed many a sailboat before but never using jiffy reefing. The mechanics of jiffy reefing are straight forward and obvious. My question is NOT about "how to jiffy reef." My question is: when you normally set the mainsail on a normal (non reefing to start anyway) day, do you still lead the reefing lines thru the luff reef cringle and the leach reef cringle, and just leave them slack so the sail shape isn't compromised when the sail is fully hoisted? My reason for asking is this. Jiffy reefing is supposed to be very rapid and I'm sure it is. When a reefing situation arises partially dropping the sail to first lead the lines thru the cringles obviously takes time and could prove "difficult" in a blow with the sail flapping around in a strong wind. So the question is, How do you routinely rig your mainsail in respect to jiffy reefing lines. Also, any recommendations for a "ram's horn" for the gooseneck? Is it difficult to install?
Thanks
Warren
CD27 "Sine Qua Non"
Hull #166

darenius@aol.com

[Jerry J Commisso]

Hi Warren,
The lines should always remain on the sail. Just leave enough slack so they do not have tension on them when you raise the sail. All you do is lower the halyard and tighten the reef lines.
Good Luck,
Jerry
CD 30 CHELSEA ROSE

Please forgive a rather elementary question about jiffy reefing. I reefed many a sailboat before but never using jiffy reefing. The mechanics of jiffy reefing are straight forward and obvious. My question is NOT about "how to jiffy reef." My question is: when you normally set the mainsail on a normal (non reefing to start anyway) day, do you still lead the reefing lines thru the luff reef cringle and the leach reef cringle, and just leave them slack so the sail shape isn't compromised when the sail is fully hoisted? My reason for asking is this. Jiffy reefing is supposed to be very rapid and I'm sure it is. When a reefing situation arises partially dropping the sail to first lead the lines thru the cringles obviously takes time and could prove "difficult" in a blow with the sail flapping around in a strong wind. So the question is, How do you routinely rig your mainsail in respect to jiffy reefing lines. Also, any recommendations for a "ram's horn" for the gooseneck? Is it difficult to install?
Thanks
Warren
CD27 "Sine Qua Non"
Hull #166

liasboat@aol.com

[Ron Musk]

Please forgive a rather elementary question about jiffy reefing. I reefed many a sailboat before but never using jiffy reefing. The mechanics of jiffy reefing are straight forward and obvious. My question is NOT about "how to jiffy reef." My question is: when you normally set the mainsail on a normal (non reefing to start anyway) day, do you still lead the reefing lines thru the luff reef cringle and the leach reef cringle, and just leave them slack so the sail shape isn't compromised when the sail is fully hoisted? My reason for asking is this. Jiffy reefing is supposed to be very rapid and I'm sure it is. When a reefing situation arises partially dropping the sail to first lead the lines thru the cringles obviously takes time and could prove "difficult" in a blow with the sail flapping around in a strong wind. So the question is, How do you routinely rig your mainsail in respect to jiffy reefing lines. Also, any recommendations for a "ram's horn" for the gooseneck? Is it difficult to install?

Thanks
Warren
CD27 "Sine Qua Non"
Hull #166

Warren , also consider leading your lines inside the boom in and out of exit plates,We had our CD25 set up this way and it worked out well.Use a length of stiff wire to fish them in when you put the sail on for the first time each spring.

Ron
CD30 #42
s/v R&R



ccerre@massed.net