Typhoon Weekender Oarlocks

Scott Launey · Post by **Scott Launey** » Apr 29th, '10, 18:37

Has anyone used oars instead of an outboard to go or get home with no wind or just in and out of a slip? I'd like to know what kind and length of oars and where they put the oarlocks and also where they sat. Do you row facing forward or rear? I'd like to just get the outboard off the boat and try it.
Thanks,

Scott

sfreihofer · Post by **sfreihofer** » Apr 29th, '10, 19:32

Hi Scott;

I'm not familiar with the Typhoon, but I assume it's similar to the CD 25.

I have heard of tholes that fit over the coaming winches to accept the oarlocks. I suspect that the oars would have to be quite long, with a corresponding loss of mechanical advantage.

I have also heard that sculling from the stern is easier and more effective than rowing.

I have no experience with either method on a CD. Rowing or sculling a displacement hull of several thousand pounds seems to me to be a labor intensive task... compared to a dinghy, anyway. I would have to assume you are considerably younger than I.

Stan Freihofer
1981 CD25 #794
Ft. Lauderdale
www.ReefRoof.com

mgphl52 · Post by **mgphl52** » Apr 29th, '10, 20:16

Scott Launey wrote:Has anyone used oars instead of an outboard to go or get home with no wind or just in and out of a slip? I'd like to know what kind and length of oars and where they put the oarlocks and also where they sat. Do you row facing forward or rear? I'd like to just get the outboard off the boat and try it.
Thanks,

Scott

You can paddle a Ty for quite a ways with just a canoe paddle. Sit at the bow with your legs crossed around the stem and just paddle. I've done it for over 2 miles when totally becalmed...

-michael

sharkbait · Post by **sharkbait** » Apr 29th, '10, 20:20

I would think that with just a little engineering one could make a sweep bracket that would replace the outboard. You should be able to scull the Typhoon for quite a distance.

jbenagh · Post by **jbenagh** » Apr 29th, '10, 20:29

Both of the following books have good descriptions of using oars. You really should read all of LFH to get the full effect. Both seem to think that sculling oars are a good choice (singe oarlock on the rear and push from side to side). Sculling oars are very long, like 14ft -- you will probably need to make it yourself and keep it on deck.

Lin & Larry Pardy, "Self Sufficient Sailor" chapter 13, p 103.

LF Herreshoff, "The Compleat Cruiser"

Jeff

Raymond · Post by **Raymond** » Apr 29th, '10, 20:58

http://councill.home.mindspring.com/sbj ... cull1.html

http://www.simplicityboats.com/ScullYulohaboat.htm

Numbah134 · Post by **Numbah134** » Apr 29th, '10, 20:59

My sailboat is a rowboat, but I have always been a bit interested in the alternate version of row-propulsion...which works even for much bigger boats evidently... and if it let you skip having a motor at all, could save quite a few bucks on fees each year.

http://www.woodenboat.net.nz/Stories/Sc ... llone.html

Klem · Post by **Klem** » Apr 29th, '10, 21:09

Personally, I much prefer rowing to sculling if I have to cover any distance. Sculling is great when maneuvering since you can see where you are going. I have never done either on a Ty but I have both rowed and sculled on similar size boats.

With rowing, getting the correct oar length, oarlock height, and seat height are all very important. I have seen numbers on the subject but can't think of where, it may have been when I used to row shells. If you find numbers for rowing shells, you will need to move the oarlocks up relative to the seat slightly.

Scott Launey · Post by **Scott Launey** » Apr 29th, '10, 21:58

Thanks for all the responses today; they're all interesting on the rowing/sculling subject. I row some shells also so I like using two oars and also I've never tried sculling. For Stan the Typhoon is a 19' daysailer and although it weighs 2000 # I think it could be rowed for short distances and I'm not so sure I'm younger at 62. For Michael I've tried the bow position, but I just liked the idea of rowing from the cockpit better. I'll look up the books and sites that Jeff and Raymond recommended. Klem, I like rowing also so I'm going to play around with all of these ideas and I'll post a reply soon.

Stan, What are tholes that fit over the winches. I'm intrigued. They may work if I make a seat that fits across the side cockpits seats. It also may be necessary to row standing up, but that works fine for medium distances and if the oars are positioned right you can row facing either direction.

Thanks again,
Scott

Scott Launey · Post by **Scott Launey** » Apr 29th, '10, 22:35

I just found this web page that discusses thoroughly the subject of this thread. Thought you all might find this interesting. My Typhoon is smaller then his Ariel by I guessing5-6' so it should work.

Scott

http://www.solopublications.com/sailario.htm

GLutzow · Post by **GLutzow** » May 2nd, '10, 22:33

I made a set of oar locks for my Typhoon Weekender that mounted on the winches. I used Very long oars and could paddle either facing forward or rearward. I found that for distance it was easier to face rearward.

Scott Launey · Post by **Scott Launey** » May 8th, '10, 10:22

Greg,

Can you post a picture or description of how you made the oarlocks as I'd like to try it out. Also how long and what type of oars were they.

Thanks,

Scott

sharkbait · Post by **sharkbait** » May 8th, '10, 16:57

Look at the "JUSTFOUND THIS" post above. That Typhoon had oar locks on it.

Scott Launey · Post by **Scott Launey** » May 8th, '10, 17:39

Thanks Sharkbait; it looks like it's got oarlocks with no sheet winches. I'm trying to figure out how to put oarlocks over the winches. Still working on it.

Scott

The Cape Dory Board