Ultimate fate of Ultimate Sole
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- Joe Myerson
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Ultimate fate of Ultimate Sole
Somebody on another bulletin board reported that they are now unable to get Ultimate Sole.
I went on the Ultimate Sole website, and most of the pages have gone blank. So I sent an e-mail to the two guys who have been running the company.
I haven't yet received any response.
My hope is that they're busy visiting boat shows (Ft. Lauderdale, for example), and they are still in business.
Does anybody on this board--where I found out about their wonderful product--know the scoop?
BTW, I've got enough Ultimate Sole left over to re-do my 25D's very small cabin sole at least once more. But I really love the product, and would hate to have to find something else.
--Joe
I went on the Ultimate Sole website, and most of the pages have gone blank. So I sent an e-mail to the two guys who have been running the company.
I haven't yet received any response.
My hope is that they're busy visiting boat shows (Ft. Lauderdale, for example), and they are still in business.
Does anybody on this board--where I found out about their wonderful product--know the scoop?
BTW, I've got enough Ultimate Sole left over to re-do my 25D's very small cabin sole at least once more. But I really love the product, and would hate to have to find something else.
--Joe
Former Commodore, CDSOA
Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
- Cathy Monaghan
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Hmmm, sure hate to think that another manufacturer catering to the boating industry has bit the dust. Try contacting one of these "Ultimate Sole" suppliers They may at least be able to tell you if Ultimate Sole is still in business.
BERMUDA: Pembroke Paint Company - Devonshire
CANADA:
NOVA SCOTIA: Inventive Marine Products, Ltd - 241 Bluewater Road - Bedford, NS 902-468-2611
ONTARIO: Port Whitby Marine Supplies - 1636 Charles St - Whitby, ON - 905-668-4077
UNITED STATES:
CT:
Hathaway, Reiser, & Raymond - 184 Selleck St - Stamford - 203-324-9581
Norwalk Cove Marina, Inc. - 48 Beach Road - East Norwalk - 203-838-5899
Rex Marine Center - 144 Water Street - South Norwalk - 203-831-5236
MD:
Fawcett Boat Supplies, Inc. - 110 Compromise St - Annapolis, MD - 410-267-8681
NY:
Obersheimer Sailor's Supply - 1884 Niagara Street - Buffalo, NY 14207 - 716-877-8221
Sailors Solutions Inc. - Long Island - Northport, NY 631-754-1945
OH:
Integrated Marine Systems - 3409 E. Liberty Ave, 2nd Flr - Vermilion, OH - 216-496-8976
RI:
New England Yacht Rigging - 1 Water Street - East Greenwich, RI - 401-884-1112
VA: (Elizabeth River - Mile Marker "0" on ICW)
Tidewater Yacht Agency, Inc.-Marina & Ship's Store -10 Crawford Pkwy - Norfolk, VA - 757-393-2525
BERMUDA: Pembroke Paint Company - Devonshire
CANADA:
NOVA SCOTIA: Inventive Marine Products, Ltd - 241 Bluewater Road - Bedford, NS 902-468-2611
ONTARIO: Port Whitby Marine Supplies - 1636 Charles St - Whitby, ON - 905-668-4077
UNITED STATES:
CT:
Hathaway, Reiser, & Raymond - 184 Selleck St - Stamford - 203-324-9581
Norwalk Cove Marina, Inc. - 48 Beach Road - East Norwalk - 203-838-5899
Rex Marine Center - 144 Water Street - South Norwalk - 203-831-5236
MD:
Fawcett Boat Supplies, Inc. - 110 Compromise St - Annapolis, MD - 410-267-8681
NY:
Obersheimer Sailor's Supply - 1884 Niagara Street - Buffalo, NY 14207 - 716-877-8221
Sailors Solutions Inc. - Long Island - Northport, NY 631-754-1945
OH:
Integrated Marine Systems - 3409 E. Liberty Ave, 2nd Flr - Vermilion, OH - 216-496-8976
RI:
New England Yacht Rigging - 1 Water Street - East Greenwich, RI - 401-884-1112
VA: (Elizabeth River - Mile Marker "0" on ICW)
Tidewater Yacht Agency, Inc.-Marina & Ship's Store -10 Crawford Pkwy - Norfolk, VA - 757-393-2525
- Cathy Monaghan
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Looks like they did go out of business. I found this:
http://www.anything-sailing.com/ultimat ... 84&p=44477
http://www.anything-sailing.com/ultimat ... 84&p=44477
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As far as I understand it
From what I was told by a good friend, who is a chemist, Ultimate Sole was basically gymnasium floor finish..
The link below will take you to a number of manufacturers and the requirements that gym floor finishes must meet.
Might even be able to find a quality finish for less money!
http://www.maplefloor.org/literature/finishlist.htm#gen
The link below will take you to a number of manufacturers and the requirements that gym floor finishes must meet.
Might even be able to find a quality finish for less money!
http://www.maplefloor.org/literature/finishlist.htm#gen
This stuff looks like it might be ideal...
<a href="http://www.parish-supply.com/gym_finish_hs_450.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.parish-supply.com/images/0049005.jpg"></a>
but it'll take a LOT of cabin soles to use up 5 gallons...
-mike
<a href="http://www.parish-supply.com/gym_finish_hs_450.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.parish-supply.com/images/0049005.jpg"></a>
but it'll take a LOT of cabin soles to use up 5 gallons...
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-mike
-michael & Toni CDSOA #789
s/v KAYLA CD28 #318
2012 FLSTC Heritage Classic
Niceville FL
+30° 30' 24.60", -86° 26' 32.10"
"Just because it worked, doesn't mean it works." -me
No shirt + No shorts = No problem!
s/v KAYLA CD28 #318
2012 FLSTC Heritage Classic
Niceville FL
+30° 30' 24.60", -86° 26' 32.10"
"Just because it worked, doesn't mean it works." -me
No shirt + No shorts = No problem!
- Joe Myerson
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Another possible replacement
If Rod is correct, then a product called "Gym Seal," which was referenced on the other bulletin board, might also work.
Here's a link. (I haven't checked it out yet):
http://www.valsparglobal.com/val/resident/gymseal.jsp
Here's a link. (I haven't checked it out yet):
http://www.valsparglobal.com/val/resident/gymseal.jsp
Former Commodore, CDSOA
Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
Joe, I looked for that stuff and no one appears to have it in stock (at via online order). At least it does come in one gallon cans, when available.
-michael & Toni CDSOA #789
s/v KAYLA CD28 #318
2012 FLSTC Heritage Classic
Niceville FL
+30° 30' 24.60", -86° 26' 32.10"
"Just because it worked, doesn't mean it works." -me
No shirt + No shorts = No problem!
s/v KAYLA CD28 #318
2012 FLSTC Heritage Classic
Niceville FL
+30° 30' 24.60", -86° 26' 32.10"
"Just because it worked, doesn't mean it works." -me
No shirt + No shorts = No problem!
Gym Seal
Joe, I had an employee several years ago who worked for a floor refinisher and they used Gym Seal exclusively. I' haven't heard the name for years but that it what he mentioned. He said they always applied three coats and it smelled horrible, but that was many years ago so the formulation may have been modified. They always applied with a fur applicator. I presume it was sheepskin. My own sole was last done with Cetol, by the PO, and has stood up quite well so I would stick with it.
- Cathy Monaghan
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Re: Cabot Cabothane replaced Valspar Gymseal....
I found the following information at: http://www.o-geepaint.com/ArchiCoats/cabot.shtmlJoe Myerson wrote:If Rod is correct, then a product called "Gym Seal," which was referenced on the other bulletin board, might also work.
Here's a link. (I haven't checked it out yet):
http://www.valsparglobal.com/val/resident/gymseal.jsp
- ".......Valspar is replacing both Valspar and McCloskey branded interior wood stains and finishes with the Cabot brand. Many of these cross over to new names and numbers but are the same color and consistency that folks have grown comfortable using. Some favorite colors like Light Oak are discontinued and completely sold out, others such as Pecan and Fruitwood have swapped names and some are only available in quarts and halfpints. Call us if you really want to get halfpints. ......
CABOTHANE
GymSeal Tung Oil Varnish has been replaced by a polyurethane. According to Tech service at McCloskey, the raw materials are no longer available.Cabothane is an extremely durable finish that remains flexible and withstands tough, high traffic areas like stairs and gym floors. It is resistant to scuff marks, mars, scratches and virtually all household chemicals. For use on: all types of wood flooring such as oak, pine, fir, birth, aspen, maple, cypress, mahogany and redwood.
This product replaces the venerable Gymseal, no longer available.
Do not use on plastic laminate floors or pre-finished factory wood flooring. ....."
So, look for Cabot Cabothane Polyurethane Floor Finish instead of McCloskey or Valspar Gymseal.
In addition to the polyurethane product, you can also get the Cabothane as a water-borne floor finish. I have no idea which would be better. ACE Hardware carries both products. Lowe's has the Cabothane Polyurethane finish. If it's not in the store, you may have to order it.
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
- Joe Myerson
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Are they nonskid?
Cathy et al:
The thing that I found so great about the late, great Ultimate Sole was the way they were glossy but not slippery, even when my boat shoes were wet.
Does anybody know if these various gym finishes have the same characteristic?
--Joe
The thing that I found so great about the late, great Ultimate Sole was the way they were glossy but not slippery, even when my boat shoes were wet.
Does anybody know if these various gym finishes have the same characteristic?
--Joe
Former Commodore, CDSOA
Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
Former Captain, Northeast Fleet
S/V Crème Brûlée, CD 25D, Hull # 80
"What a greate matter it is to saile a shyppe or goe to sea."
--Capt. John Smith, 1627
- Cathy Monaghan
- Posts: 3503
- Joined: Feb 5th, '05, 08:17
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My guess, and it's only a guess, is that it is a bit non-skid (when dry anyway) otherwise basketball players would be constantly slipping and falling.
Do you know any high school kids you can ask about the gym floor? It's been so long since I was in high school I can't remember if it was slippery or not.
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Do you know any high school kids you can ask about the gym floor? It's been so long since I was in high school I can't remember if it was slippery or not.
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
- tartansailor
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Anti Slip
Colloidal silica is the additive added by paint manufacturers to
impart anti slip character.
Dick
impart anti slip character.
Dick
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I have been searching for Ultimate Sole and like some of you have found their web pages blank.I called one of their retail locations and was told they are out of stock. The company has apparently gone out of business; however the original owner may buy it back according to the company in Ct that I called. If the original owner buys it back the plan is to make the product available again under a different name. I am now debating if I should call the other retail locations for a qt. or just go with varnish. Problem is I may not be able to get any when it's time to refinish.
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Ultimate Sole Correction
I have just spoken with Rex Marine Ctr. and they tell me to owner of Ultimate Sole started the company for something to do in retirement and it really took off. The company that packaged the product stopped making qt. sizes and only wanted to do 5 gal. containers.
The last Rex Marine knew he was trying to sell the company to Tartan. That was two months ago. I'll check their web site now.
The last Rex Marine knew he was trying to sell the company to Tartan. That was two months ago. I'll check their web site now.