seacocks help cannot open leaks 1 drop/10 secs

barfwinkle · Post by **barfwinkle** » Jun 29th, '09, 08:14

Okay folks I have heard about this stuff for years. Was told once that it was available from NAPA and even had the part #. Our local NAPA couldn't get it.

I just did an internet search and still can't find a dealer. Where can I order a 8-12 oz tub of this stuff. I have a seacock issue myself.

Thanks

Bill

bottomscraper · Post by **bottomscraper** » Jun 29th, '09, 09:27

Bill,

I was able to order Morey's Super Red from the Napa web site a few years ago but it doesn't appear that you can do this anymore. I did buy some Pennzoil "PREMIUM WHEEL BEARING 707L RED GREASE" at a local auto parts store and it appears and feels the same. There is also "Lucas Red 'N' Tacky Grease #2" that is probably similar also, I haven't actually touched that. The Lucas grease was available at my local Tractor Supply store.

http://www.pennzoil.com/documents/Premi ... 20707L.pdf

http://www.lucasoil.com/products/displa ... 2&loc=show

Rich

Bob Owens · Post by **Bob Owens** » Jun 29th, '09, 10:37

Dear Bill,
Are you aware that you can order a good sized tub of seacock grease directly from Spartan Marine for around $10-12? That grease has worked great for me, and after about six years of annual maintenance I am only about 10% into the supply They are the manufactureres of the Cape Dory hardware and also have a helpful schematic of the seacocks in their on-line catalogue. www.spartanmarine.com
Best,
Bob Owens

Oswego John · Post by **Oswego John** » Jun 29th, '09, 10:43

Two items.

If you think that Morey's Red is great, Morey's Green is even better.

After reading Bill's post, I was going to buy some Morey's Red and send it to him. I called every swingin' auto supply in Oswego as well as Oswego County and no one had any.

But that's okay. As Mike says, try the Lucas. It's great stuff. I've been using Lucas products for a long time now and never had a complaint with any of their products.

Two items? Yeah, I know. Make it three:

BTW, they say that old man Gulden didn't make his great fortune on all the mustard that people used. He made it on all the mustard that people left in the odd shaped jar and was wasted.

You people have no idea how many half used cans of grease and other assorted lubes that have collected in my shop (maze) during the last 50 or 60 years. I have half cans of grease of all colors and consistencies for any purpose under the sun that a Madison Ave huckster could ever mentally conceive of on his best day.

And here I am, going out to buy some more grease for Bill. Go figure.

Have a good one,
O J

John R. · Post by **John R.** » Jun 29th, '09, 11:46

Here's Morey's link .....

I do not know if NAPA still has the product in their line up but I would be quite surprised if they can't order it for you. I am sure the company can supply you with dealer listings and contact information.

I am fortunate that I still have some tubes on hand so have not needed to reorder for a long time.

You will note that they have changed the appearance of the tube graphics.

Morey's Red "EP" waterproof grease: http://www.moreyoil.co.nz/details.php?& ... oductID=13

Judith · Post by **Judith** » Jun 29th, '09, 17:50

We have all our seacocks out, parts cleaned, and ready to be greased. We went with the "Lucas Red' on the strength of. . .well, it being 'red' and 'grease' and that's all we could find (local Auto Zone, I believe) and the list of applications seems in the zone. Nice to have an independent recommendation from the board: thanks, yall!

Whew!

Judith

Neil Gordon · Post by **Neil Gordon** » Jun 29th, '09, 20:58

Oswego John wrote:If you think that Morey's Red is great, Morey's Green is even better.

Uh oh. This could be worse than the prop locking thread.

Judith · Post by **Judith** » Jun 29th, '09, 21:02

Neil Gordon wrote:
Oswego John wrote:If you think that Morey's Red is great, Morey's Green is even better.
Uh oh. This could be worse than the prop locking thread.

Shusssshhh, Neil! Don't get them started!

Morey's good, two legs BAD!

John R. · Post by **John R.** » Jun 29th, '09, 21:27

For those of you trying to get the gease note that Morey's Super Red EP is still available at NAPA. It's on their website, the Item number is NCB3209 and sells for $6.49.

Here's a link:

http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/N ... ti-Purpose

bottomscraper · Post by **bottomscraper** » Jun 30th, '09, 10:46

John R. wrote:For those of you trying to get the gease note that Morey's Super Red EP is still available at NAPA. It's on their website...

Ugh! John, How did you find that? The NAPA web site seems to be the "red headed stepchild" of the NAPA universe. It was non-functional
for about 8 months a few years ago and there was no response from the contact page. Searching for the part number doesn't work.

John R. · Post by **John R.** » Jun 30th, '09, 12:33

Rich ....

They have a tricky web site to be sure. Basically, you have to look in their "search" box first. Just type "grease". Then you will see a index of all kinds of stuff and most has nothing to do with grease. Just look in the list for multi-purpose grease and click on it. Then you need to look for the "NCB" product line which is a abbreviation for "Napa Consumer Brands" which is how Morey's product line is cataloged at NAPA. Click through the grease product pages until you see grease with the "NCB" designation. When you get to one click on it, if it's not Morey's just go to the next one until you get to the Morey's.

Don't try and type Morey's into the home page search box, that will accomplish nothing.

marv brinn · Post by **marv brinn** » Jun 30th, '09, 16:23

I cant believe the activity that is buzzing about the seacock question...Its great!!!!!!!I called paul at spartan and he said to lapp the seacock a few more times....I guess I need to be patient . the kit they sold me had a small wrench , grease, and lapping compound for 50 bucks well worth the advise he gave me.

marv brinn · Post by **marv brinn** » Jun 30th, '09, 16:27

the plug used that falls off is one sold by west marine it has a small lever that you use to tighten the plug you insert it and then lever 90 degrees..i used a piece of noodle shoved in the thru hole. it holds up ok but I wouldnt trust it for more than a week or so.

John R. · Post by **John R.** » Jul 1st, '09, 01:13

Marv-

What you described is a transom plug. They would be too firm to conform to the inside of a thru hull especially with the nibs in the way. Transom plugs come in different configurations and are designed to slip into a smooth brass or stainless sleeve that is mounted in a transom and in bait wells. This is why they seal tightly when they are expanded by the through bolt drawing the end washers together which squeeze the hard rubber plug and thus increase the diameter of the plug resulting in the tight seal. Some use the lever you mentioned and some just use a type of T bolt.

I am very surprised to read that the noodle did such a good job for you. It's not something I would have tried without testing it first on a operating seacock with a hose attached. Keep in mind when you do the lapping that Spartan mentioned you do need to draw the plug in tighter little by little while you lap. Good luck, hope you can save the seacock.

marv brinn · Post by **marv brinn** » Jul 3rd, '09, 10:17

the noodle works great i wouldnt use it too long as the material will certainly decompose..

incidentally anyone know the longest string we have had on this board?

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