I am a Cape Dory wanabe. I saw CD30 with "B" cabin layout and I
was impressed, could someone tell me how many "B" cabin layout cutters were built and what years were they made??
Wally Bennett
wbennett@ymail.yu.edu
CD30 B cabin layout
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Ken Coit
Re: CD30 B cabin layout
Wally,
I can't answer your questions, but I do have a story to tell. Maybe Andy Vavolotis, the founder of Cape Dory, or his crew at Robinhood Marine remembers, or has records that will help you. Try them at info@robinhoodmarinecenter.com.
I started sailing out of Hingham, MA in the 50s on Mistress, a 48 ft. yawl that had been owned by the King of Denmark. I think I was 16 at the time. It was a friend's boat; we owned a canvas kayak,. In my adult life, I inherited my dad's home made canoe, with a sailing rig. It tacked through 170 degrees on a good day. Eventually I bought an old Lightning, which we raced on Lake Massabesic in Manchester, NH. It even planed one day with my 10 year-old daughter at the helm and her 11 year-old brother and myself as crew. We had fun!
We went on to race Lasers and a Catalina 22 in Arizona. The Westsail 32 came into being somewhere along there and I fell in love with it. And Pacific Seacraft came up with the Flicka; I fell in love with it AND Katy Burke, but not Bruce. Pocket cruising seemed the right compromise. We had friends that took a Flicka from CA to HI. That was it, small and affordable, but sometime in the future. Then the price escalated and I discovered the Cape Dory 25D. Less money, seagoing capablilty, and more space. The head is in the bow, and the cabin is fairly large with sleeping accomdations for 2 to 4. And, it was a lot less money than the Flicka. We still didn't have the money, so that was fairly academic analysis and I waited, saving those nickels and dimes. Then I discovered the Cape Dory 30B. A bigger boat with a layout similar to the 25D, not all that much more money, and you can even reach the engine.
Do you get the picture yet? Do you know what we bought? Dick and Jackie Upton of Baton Rouge, LA are laughing their heads off at this point.
We made some offers on CD-30s. It is too bad no one had the need to accept our offers, we could have saved a lot of money. We made a very careful analysis of how we would use the boat. We decided that if we were going to take casual acquaintences sailing overnight, we needed two cabins. Since sharing was a major part of the decision to buy any other boat, this had to be a consideration. I don't think we are yet ready to sail overnight with casual acquaintances, but that is how we stepped towards our final decision.
We decided that even with the grandkids, we wanted two cabins. Then I, not Shelley, looked at the requrements for offshore cruise rallies. Usually 35 ft. is the minimum. That was another nail in the coffin of pseudo practicality.
We looked at 25Ds, 30Bs, and 36s from New Hampshire to Southern California. We were able to look at 30's with two cabins and 36s the same day. We concluded that the space on a 36 would be nice.
At that point, my wife Shelley concluded, "You'd better buy what you want now, because I am not going through this again." The other coffin nails were deeply set, I quickly agreed, and we started negotiating seriously for 36s. Eventually, we settled on Parfait, a CD-36. As we reviewed the pre-purchase survey, we were told that prices for Cape Dory's had increased in the past year by about 15%. Now, if you have to buy a boat, that is the kind of a boat to buy!
Needless to say, I was delighted to be given the green light to buy what I wanted. I am still quite surprised; it has been less than a year since we settled on 36s, and only six months since we closed the deal. We own a boat that is much more capable than the two of us together, and that is very comforting. We hope it will help us grow into it by protecting us from the inadvertent and stupid things that are bound to happen.
However, you don't have to follow those footsteps. I also own a CD-14 and want a CD-10. CD made great boats and they all deserve to be loved until they just can't stand it any more. Any of them are great places to start and even finish. Some are more amenable to your needs than others, so figure that out the best you can. I thought my budget was a problem, but with due dilligence, it wasn't. Buy what you can afford to sail. I can assure you that it is no fun be unable to sail a boat you own, but do consider the longer term.
I hope we live long and healthily enough to grow into Parfait. At the moment we are busy getting ready for our first season with her and anticipate many more years of learning and yearning. Maybe a trip to Bermuda isn't so far away.
Good luck in your search. The 30s are wonderful boats and the 30B is especially wonderful for a cruising couple or daysailers who want a lot of cabin in a traditional boat. Carl Alberg did a great job for Andy Vavolotis, Cape Dory, and others.
And, thanks for inspiring me to write this. It has been a great trip.
Best regards,
Ken Coit
Parfait CD-36 #84
Raleigh, NC
parfait@nc.rr.com
I can't answer your questions, but I do have a story to tell. Maybe Andy Vavolotis, the founder of Cape Dory, or his crew at Robinhood Marine remembers, or has records that will help you. Try them at info@robinhoodmarinecenter.com.
I started sailing out of Hingham, MA in the 50s on Mistress, a 48 ft. yawl that had been owned by the King of Denmark. I think I was 16 at the time. It was a friend's boat; we owned a canvas kayak,. In my adult life, I inherited my dad's home made canoe, with a sailing rig. It tacked through 170 degrees on a good day. Eventually I bought an old Lightning, which we raced on Lake Massabesic in Manchester, NH. It even planed one day with my 10 year-old daughter at the helm and her 11 year-old brother and myself as crew. We had fun!
We went on to race Lasers and a Catalina 22 in Arizona. The Westsail 32 came into being somewhere along there and I fell in love with it. And Pacific Seacraft came up with the Flicka; I fell in love with it AND Katy Burke, but not Bruce. Pocket cruising seemed the right compromise. We had friends that took a Flicka from CA to HI. That was it, small and affordable, but sometime in the future. Then the price escalated and I discovered the Cape Dory 25D. Less money, seagoing capablilty, and more space. The head is in the bow, and the cabin is fairly large with sleeping accomdations for 2 to 4. And, it was a lot less money than the Flicka. We still didn't have the money, so that was fairly academic analysis and I waited, saving those nickels and dimes. Then I discovered the Cape Dory 30B. A bigger boat with a layout similar to the 25D, not all that much more money, and you can even reach the engine.
Do you get the picture yet? Do you know what we bought? Dick and Jackie Upton of Baton Rouge, LA are laughing their heads off at this point.
We made some offers on CD-30s. It is too bad no one had the need to accept our offers, we could have saved a lot of money. We made a very careful analysis of how we would use the boat. We decided that if we were going to take casual acquaintences sailing overnight, we needed two cabins. Since sharing was a major part of the decision to buy any other boat, this had to be a consideration. I don't think we are yet ready to sail overnight with casual acquaintances, but that is how we stepped towards our final decision.
We decided that even with the grandkids, we wanted two cabins. Then I, not Shelley, looked at the requrements for offshore cruise rallies. Usually 35 ft. is the minimum. That was another nail in the coffin of pseudo practicality.
We looked at 25Ds, 30Bs, and 36s from New Hampshire to Southern California. We were able to look at 30's with two cabins and 36s the same day. We concluded that the space on a 36 would be nice.
At that point, my wife Shelley concluded, "You'd better buy what you want now, because I am not going through this again." The other coffin nails were deeply set, I quickly agreed, and we started negotiating seriously for 36s. Eventually, we settled on Parfait, a CD-36. As we reviewed the pre-purchase survey, we were told that prices for Cape Dory's had increased in the past year by about 15%. Now, if you have to buy a boat, that is the kind of a boat to buy!
Needless to say, I was delighted to be given the green light to buy what I wanted. I am still quite surprised; it has been less than a year since we settled on 36s, and only six months since we closed the deal. We own a boat that is much more capable than the two of us together, and that is very comforting. We hope it will help us grow into it by protecting us from the inadvertent and stupid things that are bound to happen.
However, you don't have to follow those footsteps. I also own a CD-14 and want a CD-10. CD made great boats and they all deserve to be loved until they just can't stand it any more. Any of them are great places to start and even finish. Some are more amenable to your needs than others, so figure that out the best you can. I thought my budget was a problem, but with due dilligence, it wasn't. Buy what you can afford to sail. I can assure you that it is no fun be unable to sail a boat you own, but do consider the longer term.
I hope we live long and healthily enough to grow into Parfait. At the moment we are busy getting ready for our first season with her and anticipate many more years of learning and yearning. Maybe a trip to Bermuda isn't so far away.
Good luck in your search. The 30s are wonderful boats and the 30B is especially wonderful for a cruising couple or daysailers who want a lot of cabin in a traditional boat. Carl Alberg did a great job for Andy Vavolotis, Cape Dory, and others.
And, thanks for inspiring me to write this. It has been a great trip.
Best regards,
Ken Coit
Parfait CD-36 #84
Raleigh, NC
Wally Bennett wrote: I am a Cape Dory wanabe. I saw CD30 with "B" cabin layout and I
was impressed, could someone tell me how many "B" cabin layout cutters were built and what years were they made??
Wally Bennett
parfait@nc.rr.com
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Marv Birdt
Re: CD30 B cabin layout
We own a CD30B hull number 358. I may be wrong but I think there were no more than a dozen CD30 B models built and that mainly in the later years. True it is a great couple cruiser. Hope your dreams come true..Wally Bennett wrote: I am a Cape Dory wanabe. I saw CD30 with "B" cabin layout and I
was impressed, could someone tell me how many "B" cabin layout cutters were built and what years were they made??
Wally Bennett
Marv Birdt... Fort Myers, FL
mbirdt@peganet.com