new head installation

[Warren Kaplan]

Obviously, only pulling your leg here.

Just curious however. I see advertised a "home sized bowl" as opposed to a "marine sized bowl". I think the main difference is the size of the bowl evacuation hole at the bottom of the bowl...the home size being larger.

To put this as delicately as possible I find that my marine sized bowl often requires my hand pumping so much raw water through it to get the "excretal load" out of the bowl through that small hole that I'm sure the sea level in OB falls by two inches!! That fills my holding tank in very short order!! I'm wondering if a home sized bowl is more "efficient" and less frustrating to use then the small holed marine sized bowls.

Which size have you decided on?

[Troy Scott]

Carter,

Vented loops on the ejection side do sometimes (not often) get a poop clog. It's best if this vented loop has a hose to the outside. Two reasons: 1) Unpleasant odors don't stay in the boat. 2) You can use a water hose from outside to force the occasional clog back where it belongs.

Check out

http://www.myboatsgear.com/featured_pro ... 0loops.asp

About halfway down the page is a photo of a Vetus vented loop with a breather hose.

I prefer using a little clean water from outside rather than having to crawl into a tight spot to clean the valve.

[Troy Scott]

Warren,

I believe the "home size" or "standard" as Jabsco puts it, refers to the size of the bowl at the top. The larger bowl is more comfortable to use. I don't think the size of the outlet changes.

Some companies call their little round toilets "standard" and their larger ones "household". Jabsco calls their larger one "standard" and their smaller one "compact". This is a case where bigger is better.

[Carter Brey]

Obviously, only pulling your leg here.

Just curious however. I see advertised a "home sized bowl" as opposed to a "marine sized bowl". I think the main difference is the size of the bowl evacuation hole at the bottom of the bowl...the home size being larger.

To put this as delicately as possible I find that my marine sized bowl often requires my hand pumping so much raw water through it to get the "excretal load" out of the bowl through that small hole that I'm sure the sea level in OB falls by two inches!! That fills my holding tank in very short order!! I'm wondering if a home sized bowl is more "efficient" and less frustrating to use then the small holed marine sized bowls.

Which size have you decided on?

Warren, there are so many rich possibilities for reply here that I find myself having recourse to fine poetry:

When asked what the width of my bowl was,
I replied, "That depends on the bolus;
a high-fiber diet
and five minutes of quiet
result in a measure of solace."

Or, how about:

There once was a man from Merced
engaged in designing a head.
At last he relented;
well-looped and vented,
with clear conscience he went off to bed.

Now everybody...

[Troy Scott]

Carter, Excellent!

OK, don't shoot me for this, done in haste:

There once was a boat sans looping.
She was supposedly set up for pooping.
To the Captains surprise,
and to the boat's demise,
she slipped to the bottom from leaking.

[Warren Kaplan]

Maestro Brey has most eloquently said,
When inquiring about the proclivities of a head.
Think bolus for solace.
Install vented unless demented.
Then sit on the "throne" without dread!

[Troy Scott]

Very good, Warren. But it isn't the sitting I dread. It's leaving the boat not being absolutely certain everything is "right". Some details aren't as much fun as others. I'd rather be thinking about the perfect aspin!

[mexsailor]

What a lot of info re vent loops......
Guess I'll finally install one between the pump and bowl somehow.
Although I've never had any problem with the install I did. The new thru-hulls and ball valves, new hoses, tank, outside vent, macerator, bowl, etc have all worked excellently. Since 99% of my sailing is solo, I've never really been concerned with it but as they (and I) age a bit, I guess it's time to re-address this again.
Other than limited space to mount the hoses and vent section, I should be able to do this somehow.
Back to the drawing board!!!!!!!
Thanks for all the info.......
Carter.......How are you? Haven't heard from you since we had a few drinks in La Jolla!!!! Letty says HI.