New outboard for CD 22

[BillyO]

Any wisdom on a new engine for my boat ? Shaft length ?
2 or 4 stroke ?
Makes etc ?

[Ron Brassord]

I put a new Yamaha 8hp four stroke on our 22 a couple of years ago, and It's a winner. It's designed for powering a heavy displacement craft with a standard long shaft and a very large prop. The gear ratio is made strickly for power. I have about 400 hours run on it with out a glitch. I use all the 8 hp fighting a current in a busy inlet, and know I am getting full hull speed with a bit to spare.
I bought the electric, and it's a joy to just reach back, hit a button and go.
Cruising in calm water requires only a low rpm and the engine is very quiet. Fuel burn is low because I think the engine is not ever laboring.
I do't think you can buy a 2 stroke anymore unless it's used.
I'd buy another.
Good sailing Ron B

[trapper]

My 22 had a honda 8 hp 4 stroke when I bought her. I hated it! It ran fine but it was Very large and heavy. I bought a 2 stroke (used-2002) longshank, electric start tohatsu (about 50lbs). You will have to find one used because they don't sell them new in the states anymore-- but they provide the greatest power/weight ratio on the market. The 4 strokes weigh more.

I now have a 25D and cannot go against the current in the same area I sailed my 22. A CD28 in the area also has to wait for the tide to sail. --Not the 22. With the 22 and the 9.8, I could come and go on any tide.

[Weekender74]

My understanding is that Nissan and Tohatsu are the same motor.

[mgphl52]

Yes, Nissan and Tohatsu are basically the same motor. For what it's worth, I put a 6 hp Nissan 4-stroke in Brigitta (CD25) and never had a bit of trouble.

-michael

[trapper]

I think Michael is correct, the 8 hp would probably be fine--maybe even less hp would be ok. The 8 hp I had was plenty of power. I just wanted the light weight and push to start! Both made a big difference to me in the Stono, Wapoo and Ashley Rivers with big currents and bigger boats.

Also, I had a 9.8 short shank nissan when I bought the boat. I replaced the 8 hp honda 4 stroke with the short shank nissan 2 stroke and it did not work well. The foot of the motor was not long enough and the prop would come out of the water in swells. About the time I was getting ready to put the 8 hp honda back on the boat, my brother needed the short shank nissan and I found a long shaft tohatsu on craigslist.

I never did get the tohatsu sitting right on the motor mount. When I sold the boat the new owners wanted the Honda. So I still have my tohatsu and the new owners have the honda. They dont mind the weight or pull start.
Here is QT when I first bought her:
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Here is the tohatsu which never sat right on the mount:
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Here she is with mast down headed to be hauled out

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[hughesw]

My CD-22 came with a long shaft Mercury 5 HP, 2 cycle, model year 2000.

I'm happy with it. Runs like a sewing machine; quiet, cranks easily, relatively light at 49 lbs, seems to have plenty of power for my needs; pushes the boat into a head wind at hull speed with 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. Doesn't use much gas and I found a 3-gallon external gas tank at Bass Pro Shop tank that fits in the port-side lazarette.

Only issue is determining who the actual manufacturer is. It may be the same as the Tohatsu model MFS5.

Warren H.

[mgphl52]

I think Michael is correct, the 8 hp would probably be fine--maybe even less hp would be ok.

Actually, I said 6 hp... Both CD25s I have owned came with 9.9 motors which were way too much overkill. My first Typhoon had a 3.5 Seagull which proved to be quite clairvouyant... If I really, truly needed it, it ran. Otherwise, it wouldn't! I learned a lot about very light air sailing early on!

For a CD22, I can't imagine anything over 6 hp.

-michael

[trapper]

IMHO--it depends on your sailing grounds. My brother had a San Juan 24 with a 2 hp (displacement 3200) and it worked fine on the lake Until--He went out one day when it was really blowing--the wind built and he took down his sails intending to motor home. He almost did not get home because he did not have enough power to make way against the wind and the wind was pushing him into the dam. A friend in a 33' Hunter covered him so he could make it to sheltered waters.

We have fast currents and narrow passages in Charleston. A fast current and a full keel are pretty unforgiving if you make a wrong move. So I like being over powered. Helps keep me out of trouble.

This will have to go to another post--but breifly--my 25D appeared to be grossly underpowered. We pulled her in August. She has a 2 blade 8" prop--No wonder! I have been missing my 22 with the 9.8.

[BillyO]

I went out and got an 8 HP Merc four stroke long shaft.
Must say that it does a great job.
Thank you for all the imput.

[trapper]

Great choice for a great little boat!

[shavdog]

I have alittle bit of a unique situation...I live on a large inland lake and have this plan for a 22 that I have just about bought...I have a typhoon that I like the clean back end very much...I'd like to remove the motor mount, fill in the holes and paint over..then I would mount a typhoon mount on the top cover and reinforce as needed and have a removable mount as I would store the mount and motor 90% of the time...the 22 will be kept on a mooring ball and what we do with the typhoon is take the sails down and just drift or oar to the ball...I've used my minnkota electric motor about 5 % of the time..soo I saw this used 3.5 merq 2 cycle for $450its a yr 2000..would this be big enough?..I have no current issues and the only time I really use a motor is to get home when the wind dies....what would a used 3-5 hp 2 cycle cost...I would like something light in weight so its easy to mount and take off...thanks for your help...craig

[BillyO]

If you are gonna take the motor off every time--go REAL light
or marry a chiropractor

[trapper]

My brother had a 2 or 2.5 (cant remember) 4 stroke on his San Juan 24 about the same displacement as the Cape Dory 22. On most days it pushed the boat from the dock to open water just fine. Your small motor should work UNLESS you find yourself with a strong wind abeam with sails down and a short distance to trouble. 2 stroke is lighter than the 4 stroke. As for the motor mount, I wanted a ty motor mount but it would not work with my large motors. I think that Becky (oldragbaggers) sold a Ty motor mount on ebay and it may have come off of her 22?? You might ask her about the motor mount. You will need a very long shaft. Those bronze motor mounts look so much better than the ss. I think that $450. is plenty of $$ for a 3.5 2000 motor. A used 5 hp should not cost much more.

I always kept my 22 admittedly overpowered and it served me well. I was able to sail on days that without being over powered I would have stayed at the dock--but my sailing grounds were different than yours. Why are you removing your engine?

[shavdog]

The engine on the 22cd is an older heavier johnson and I thought I'd go for a 3.5 30 pounder two stroke...all I know is everytime I stand back on the typhoon with my minnkota electric motor I wonder if I'm gonna fall off the boat...lol...I always have my jacket on..anyway I dont want a permanent mount back there as I like the clean look...Becky I believe sold her ty mount on ebay..spartan sells new ones as does ensign classic in florida...I dont have the 22 here yet so I'm just brainstroming at the moment..does two cd's makea fleet?...thanks craig