Documenting a CD26 (or even a 25D...)

BillNH · Post by **BillNH** » Jun 16th, '08, 16:14

Just curious - has anyone federally documented their CD 26 or 26D? As they're quite similar, I'd also be interested in hearing of documented 25Ds...

Kurt · Post by **Kurt** » Jun 16th, '08, 16:40

The CD26 I owned from 1991-2003 was documented. I bought it that way and sold it that way.

Steve Darwin · Post by **Steve Darwin** » Jun 16th, '08, 18:05

Look through the boat registry, sorted by model. Owners often say if their boat is documented. Some 25D's are said to be, but when I measured mine, the volume did not meet the minimum requirement for federal documentation. Hmmm...

Bruce Ebling · Post by **Bruce Ebling** » Jun 16th, '08, 18:12

My 25D "Selah" was documented by a previous owner.
Bruce Ebling

Joe Myerson · Post by **Joe Myerson** » Jun 16th, '08, 20:43

My 25D was documented, by the original owner, and the previous owner renewed it, as have I.

Also, note that Selah, referenced above, was once owned by the none other than John Vigor of this board.

It's close, but apparently 25Ds do qualify (if you do your own calculations). I'd assume you could do the same for a 26.

--Joe

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Jun 16th, '08, 20:48

Steve Darwin wrote:Look through the boat registry, sorted by model. Owners often say if their boat is documented. Some 25D's are said to be, but when I measured mine, the volume did not meet the minimum requirement for federal documentation. Hmmm...

Somewhere in the archives there is a discussion on this very topic (volume not seeming to qualify) which if I recall explained how to go about it. These boats certainly do qualify since obviously many have been documented and made voyages to places requiring them to be documented (most foreign countries require it).

BillNH · Post by **BillNH** » Jun 17th, '08, 05:17

Yes, that's the reason for my inquiry. The measurement rules were changed in the mid-80s (all boats used to use what is now the "fin keel" formula), but vessels where a sistership was documented are grandfathered under the old measurement scheme. I went through this with a Contessa 26 a few years ago, and that's why I'm looking for a specific precedent here for the 26.

I did look in the Registry but none of the 26s are noted as documented.

I'm also curious what "depth" measurement was used for documented 26s?

CruiseAlong · Post by **CruiseAlong** » Jun 17th, '08, 07:35

....capable of being documented. I have seen a number of CD25Ds documented and my own CD26 has been since 1985. I'll take a look at the original document which had the "numbers" which were used.
Dana

gpb102030 · Post by **gpb102030** » Jun 18th, '08, 21:05

I have a 26d and had it documented this spring. The certificate lists.
Gross tonnage 6GRT , Net tonnage 5NRT , Length 25.9 , Breadth 8.0 , Depth 6.3 . I paid one of the online services to do it so it was pretty easy. And the did a title search and since the boat had been repossessed by a boat yard they got all the legal documents to prove clear title. I think it cost about 3 or 4 hundred bucks. It was www.boatdocumentation.com But with the info you now have you can probably save some money and do it your self. greg

BillNH · Post by **BillNH** » Jun 18th, '08, 21:47

Thanks Greg, that depth figure was the number I needed! Sounds like there's several good precedents as well!

CruiseAlong · Post by **CruiseAlong** » Jun 19th, '08, 09:32

I can confirm Greg's number as well. Checking last night on my original CD26 documentation...indicates
L=25.9 feet
B= 8.0 feet
D=6.4 feet (that is the height from the bottom of keel to toe rail at midship.

I should point out that documentation usually asks if the boat has an inboard engine...basically because the "engine room" can not be counted as cargo carrying space. From the automated worksheet on the NVD center the D=6.4 just works for documentation qualification but 6.3 did not.

Dana

trapper · Post by **trapper** » Jun 19th, '08, 18:29

Does anyone have the numbers for the 25D

Joe Myerson · Post by **Joe Myerson** » Jun 19th, '08, 20:09

Trapper,

These are the numbers from my documentation:

Gross Tonnage: 6 GRT
Net Tonnage: 5NRT
Length: 25.2 ft.
Breadth: 8.0
Depth: 6.3

Hope this is what you're looking for.

Good luck,

--Joe

Steve Darwin · Post by **Steve Darwin** » Jun 19th, '08, 23:02

BillNH's comment ("The measurement rules were changed in the mid-80s (all boats used to use what is now the "fin keel" formula), but vessels where a sistership was documented are grandfathered under the old measurement scheme.") may explain 25D documentation, because using Joe's numbers I calculate only 4.29 NRT for the 25D:

(Length: 25.2 ft.) X (Breadth: 8.0) X (Depth: 6.3) X (Hull shape factor: 0.5) X (Keel shape factor: 0.75) = 4.76 GRT X 0.9 = 4.29 NRT

Calculation instructions are posted under "Services" and "Tonnage Measurement" at USCG "HomePort" web site:

http://homeport.uscg.mil/mycg/portal/ep ... efault.jsp

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Joe Myerson · Post by **Joe Myerson** » Jun 20th, '08, 09:08

I've just been renewing my documentation every year, as had the last two owners.

Perhaps this is a can of worms that should NEVER have been opened?

The Cape Dory Board

Documenting a CD26 (or even a 25D...)

Documenting a CD26 (or even a 25D...)

CD 26 was documented

Documented 25D

Me, too

Both the CD26 and CD25D are....

26d documentation

Confirmed as Well

25D documentation

25D numbers

25D numbers

Uh-oh