Need some input on running rigging for 1980 CD 28
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Running Rigging
Hi John:
I'm not sure you'll gain a lot by making your sheets longer. You'll be able to flip them end for end after some years and that'll give you added life.
I have a mostly wire topping lift on my CD-28. I'm happy with it.
While there are advantages to mid boom sheeting, there are also disadvantages. I'd hold off on a major refit like that until you're more familiar with the boat.
Adding a boom vang is a cost effective upgrade. Here's a web page with Spartan specs for adding a boom vang to Cape Dorys:
http://www.jibeho.org/vang.htm
Good Luck!
Tony Jeske
I'm not sure you'll gain a lot by making your sheets longer. You'll be able to flip them end for end after some years and that'll give you added life.
I have a mostly wire topping lift on my CD-28. I'm happy with it.
While there are advantages to mid boom sheeting, there are also disadvantages. I'd hold off on a major refit like that until you're more familiar with the boat.
Adding a boom vang is a cost effective upgrade. Here's a web page with Spartan specs for adding a boom vang to Cape Dorys:
http://www.jibeho.org/vang.htm
Good Luck!
Tony Jeske
Hi John,
I'll also agree with Tony, hold off on the mid-boom sheeting till you've sailed her a while. I contemplated the same change, but am glad I didn't do it. I single hand KAYLA a lot, sometimes with lots of 'passengers'... having the main sheet very handy at the stern helps a lot. Yes, with 4-to-1 purchase there's a lot of sheet to run when reaching, but the loads are generally quite manageable. As for the topping lift, I would recommend talking with Garhauer (http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=40) about their rigid vangs.
That's one change I'm really wanting to make soon.
Enjoy!
I'll also agree with Tony, hold off on the mid-boom sheeting till you've sailed her a while. I contemplated the same change, but am glad I didn't do it. I single hand KAYLA a lot, sometimes with lots of 'passengers'... having the main sheet very handy at the stern helps a lot. Yes, with 4-to-1 purchase there's a lot of sheet to run when reaching, but the loads are generally quite manageable. As for the topping lift, I would recommend talking with Garhauer (http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=40) about their rigid vangs.
That's one change I'm really wanting to make soon.
Enjoy!
-michael & Toni CDSOA #789
s/v KAYLA CD28 #318
2012 FLSTC Heritage Classic
Niceville FL
+30° 30' 24.60", -86° 26' 32.10"
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s/v KAYLA CD28 #318
2012 FLSTC Heritage Classic
Niceville FL
+30° 30' 24.60", -86° 26' 32.10"
"Just because it worked, doesn't mean it works." -me
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Re: Running Rigging
I agree about turning lines end for end to equalize the wear. But there are several reasons to go a bit longer than minimum:Anthony P. Jeske wrote:I'm not sure you'll gain a lot by making your sheets longer. You'll be able to flip them end for end after some years and that'll give you added life.
Possible use with a larger genoa. More overlap requires a longer lazy sheet.
Over-riding turns on a winch and a need to release the sheet quickly. (The fastest way is with a knife.) Cutting the knot at the clew shortens the sheet a bit, by the length of line taken up by the knot. (Cutting the sheet at the winch shortens it a lot!)
Allow for a bit of shrinkage.
I'd go for about three feet more than the spec. That's six feet for port and stbd or about an extra $5 bucks. You can always make them a bit shorter later on; making them longer is tricky.
Fair winds, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
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Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
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Wire topping lift
Stick with the 1/4" dacron for your topping lift. 3/16" 1 X 19 wire is much too heavy for this light application, not to mention expensive. Wire is awful for the leech of the sail, too, as the topping lift should always be flopping when you're sailing and it inevitably hits the sail, abrades the batten pockets, and wears the stitching wherever it hits. I use 1/8" Kevlar for the TL on my CD-27 and it works just fine. SS thimbles are sewn into both ends. A 3:1 or 4:1 tackle on the lower 3 feet of the TL is all you'll need for adjustment.
If you ever plan to use your backstay as a ham or SSB antenna then a wire topping lift will severely degrade the performance of the radio system.
My $.02 worth
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If you ever plan to use your backstay as a ham or SSB antenna then a wire topping lift will severely degrade the performance of the radio system.
My $.02 worth
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ALASKA MEDICAL MARIJUANA
Last edited by Andy Denmark on Feb 13th, '11, 03:38, edited 1 time in total.
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Wire vs. Dacron
Why Kevlar? (1) strength, (2) light weight (always reduce weight aloft if you can), (3) low windage (same theory as #2), (4) doesn't damage everything it touches on the sail (like wire does)
If you insist on using wire then go to a sailmaker and get some 1/16" 1 X 19 or 3/32" 1 X 19. Both 7 X 7 and 7 X 19 are extremely "abrasive" to stitching, etc. on the sail. Simply run your hand along a piece of 1 X 19 and then along the other two and see which one feels rougher.
As for the 50/50 ratio of wire vs. rope topping lifts, consensus for sailing gear and boats, like real life, proves absolutely nothing, IMHO.
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If you insist on using wire then go to a sailmaker and get some 1/16" 1 X 19 or 3/32" 1 X 19. Both 7 X 7 and 7 X 19 are extremely "abrasive" to stitching, etc. on the sail. Simply run your hand along a piece of 1 X 19 and then along the other two and see which one feels rougher.
As for the 50/50 ratio of wire vs. rope topping lifts, consensus for sailing gear and boats, like real life, proves absolutely nothing, IMHO.
Another $.02 worth for free !!!
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Last edited by Andy Denmark on Feb 13th, '11, 03:38, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Wire vs. Dacron
I'll go with Andy on that one. If we went with consensus, we'd all be sailing Clorox bottles with fin keels.Andy Denmark wrote:... consensus for sailing gear and boats, like real life, proves absolutely nothing, IMHO.
Fair winds, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
CDSOA member #698
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
CDSOA member #698
Re: Wire vs. Dacron
Ain't THAT the truth! God Bless Carl Alberg & Cape Dory Yachts!Neil Gordon wrote:I'll go with Andy on that one. If we went with consensus, we'd all be sailing Clorox bottles with fin keels.Andy Denmark wrote:... consensus for sailing gear and boats, like real life, proves absolutely nothing, IMHO.
-michael
-michael & Toni CDSOA #789
s/v KAYLA CD28 #318
2012 FLSTC Heritage Classic
Niceville FL
+30° 30' 24.60", -86° 26' 32.10"
"Just because it worked, doesn't mean it works." -me
No shirt + No shorts = No problem!
s/v KAYLA CD28 #318
2012 FLSTC Heritage Classic
Niceville FL
+30° 30' 24.60", -86° 26' 32.10"
"Just because it worked, doesn't mean it works." -me
No shirt + No shorts = No problem!