CD25D HOLE IN THE SOLE FOR THE TABLE LEG

[trapper]

Does anyone have a plug or cover for the hole where the table leg goes in the CD25D? If so, what does it look like? And, where can I get one?

[Oswego John]

Hi Trapper,

What shape is the hole in the sole? Is it round, oval, oblong or square? What is the diameter(s) from edge to edge?

O J

[trapper]

It's round and I think 2 1/2" diameter but I am not sure about that. I will measure it over the weekend. I say round, I don't think that it is perfectly round.

[Dave Brandt]

I turned the hole in my cabin sole into an access point to the bilge, makes a nice wine cellar!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9447350@N0 ... 596173271/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9447350@N0 ... 596173271/
Dave

[trapper]

You do beautiful work! My boat is a little different than yours. It is the 25D. I will probably have to replace my sole but I was just wondering what went in this hole when the table pole is not in use:

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I just purchased her 2 months ago and have been scrubbing since. Just got the engine really up and going this weekend.

Here are some pics:
http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/bb146/ftrapp/Saga/

As you can see, a lot of scrubbing left to do.

[Dean Abramson]

Trapper,

We had a 25D, bought it used, and no "plug" came along with it. I have been on a few other 25Ds and I have never seen one, and I personally don't think there was one from Cape Dory.

To tell you the truth, in the dozen years we had ours (and LOVED it), I never felt the need for a plug. In fact, until I read your post, I never even imagined one.

It would be easy to make something. But to us, the hole just became a hardly-noticed part of the scenery. It is too small in diameter to be a tripping hazard for anyone larger than a toddler. You could just call it a drink holder. :-)

Dean

[Neil Gordon]

My 28 has two holes for the table legs. When the table is stowed, the holes are just there. They've never been a hazard.

I'm pretty sure that if plugs for the holes were in widespread use, we'd begin seeing threads about stuck plugs and strategies for removing them.

[Joe Myerson]

I've got a 25D, and as far as I can tell, there never was a plug for that hole. The table fits there nicely, as long as you don't extend the alleged double berth (which, if I recall, has its own set of holes).

Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong: I'm not at the boat right now.

--Joe

[Dick Barthel]

I've got a 25D, and as far as I can tell, there never was a plug for that hole. The table fits there nicely, as long as you don't extend the alleged double berth (which, if I recall, has its own set of holes).

Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong: I'm not at the boat right now.

--Joe

Ditto - Never a plug.

[Dean Abramson]

Joe,

If I remember correctly, the alleged double berth legs screw up into the berth's plywood, but do not have any holes in the cabin sole.

Dean

[Joe Myerson]

If I remember correctly, the alleged double berth legs screw up into the berth's plywood, but do not have any holes in the cabin sole.
[quote]

That sounds about right, Dean. Although I think there is at least one smaller hole in my cabin sole that fits one of those legs. (You can see it in Trapper's picture, to starboard and just aft of the compression post.) Anyway, I've only extended that berth once. It's damned inconvenient.

On the rare occasions when Lynne and I cruise together, we sleep on the port and starboard settees. Luckily neither of us is very tall.

--Joe

[Oswego John]

Trapper and all,

Did anyone ever measure the exact size of the hole? There is a reason that I asked what the diameter is.

I have no way of measuring the hole so, with my untrained eye(s), I'll take a stab at guessing how big it is. First, is that a compression post that I see in the pictures? If it is, is the pole nominal 1 1/2" pipe? If it should turn out to be 1 1/2" pipe, I'll venture a guess that the hole is 1 13/16" across. (give or take a mm. or two).

It seems that I keep sending you to either an electrical supply house or to a big box home supply to help keep your boats afloat. So once again, after dutifully determining the diameter of the hole in the floor, proceed to the handiest supply source, do not pass GO, and with your stimulus check in hand, head directly to the electrical department.

Hopefully, there you will find a well supplied assortment of electrical knockout seals, known in the trade as KO plugs. The code strictly states that all empty knock outs (holes) in junction or panel boxes must be refilled.

These KO plugs come in either cadmium plated steel or plastic. They are available in all popular sizes for electrical fittings, including 1 1/2" conduit or EMT connectors. When installed, they lie flush with the floor, they are paintable and easily removed and reinstalled.

If anyone should decide to install one of them and find that the fit is snug, a few touches with a wood rasp or a rotary file should improve the fit.

But write down the size of the hole and select accordingly. It may call for a differnt size altogether. Don't go by my untrained eye(s)

Good luck,
O J

[Sea Hunt]

I have been reluctant to enter this thread because I have never actually owned a CD 25D.

However, in my long tortured search for a CD I inspected and took pictures of 9 different CD 25Ds, including Dean's 1983 CD 25D (which I periodically kick myself in the "arse" for being a dummy and not buying it ). Yet another dumb decision by a dummy.

I have reviewed all of the photos (unfortunately, film & prints, no digital images ) of all the CD 25Ds I inspected.

As stated by many above, all of the CD 25Ds I looked at had a small circular indentation (a hole) in the cabin sole aft of the mast post but sort of towards the bow/v berth/head area - the same as the one shown in the photos posted. None of the CD 25Ds had any type of insert for this hole. Oswego John, from looking at my photos, I think the hole is approximately 3" in diameter.

The hole is for the metal pipe that is used to support the cabin table. The bottom of the table has a female receptacle for the other end of the pipe. The table and pipe, when not set up, are stored in a shelf in the starboard quarter berth.

If you want to fill in the hole when the metal pipe for the table is not in it, my thought would be to use a small piece of teak/holly with a small indent on the side so that it could be easily removed when necessary.

As for the starboard settee/berth, a portion of it slides out horizontally. There are two (?) legs attached to the bottom of the portion that swing out to form a support for the portion that swings out. There are no cabin sole holes for these legs.

Like I said, I never owned a CD 25D so I could be very wrong about the above, but that is my memory, refreshed by the photos I took.

[trapper]

Thanks all for the replies. I guess it never had a plug. I'm not at the boat -- but I measured the hole when I was there and it is 2 1/2 inches in diameter. While it is round, it may have been cut with a bit but then shaped with possibly a jig saw because it is sort of flat in a few areas.

There are 2 very small holes for the double berth supports. You can see one in the photo--forward and starboard of the hole for the table. The holes for the double berth appear to have an insert that gives them a finished edge. The hole for the table does not.

I am probably going to have to replace the sole. I think I will save the cutout and use it as a plug when I replace the sole.

I dont care how bad it looks for now--I'm going sailing. Maybe next year -- replace the sole.

[trapper]

BTW, Seahunt, your comments are always welcome. You may not own a 25D but you have probably seen more CD's from Typhoons to 28' than anyone but the builders!