CD36 Heater Questions

[SAMiller]

The CD36 we recently acquired has a newer Wallis 3000DX in it, supposedly adequate for the cold NW. It doesn't seem able to keep the temperature up without running 24/7... and then it isn't really a comfortable warm... perhaps it's too small for this size boat??? Has anyone had any experience with other forced air heaters, such as Wobasto or Espar? Is forced air the most desireable, or has anyone had other experience with how to heat a boat this size reasonably quickly (within an hour or less)? Or is hot water heat preferred and if so, why? I hate to replace the Wallis since it's fairly new, but perhaps it would be better suited to a smaller boat, say a CD30 or? Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help, SAM



metalf00t@aol.com

[Ben]

The CD36 we recently acquired has a newer Wallis 3000DX in it, supposedly adequate for the cold NW. It doesn't seem able to keep the temperature up without running 24/7... and then it isn't really a comfortable warm... perhaps it's too small for this size boat??? Has anyone had any experience with other forced air heaters, such as Wobasto or Espar? Is forced air the most desireable, or has anyone had other experience with how to heat a boat this size reasonably quickly (within an hour or less)? Or is hot water heat preferred and if so, why? I hate to replace the Wallis since it's fairly new, but perhaps it would be better suited to a smaller boat, say a CD30 or? Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help, SAM

Sam, I sail a 82 cd 30 cutter out of portland, or. Have been upgrading gps, chartplotter, radar, radio and such. next is the standing rigging. Getting ready for offshore next spring. currently do not have heat, aside from cranking gas broiler up on stove. On your post you mentioned the nw. and am curious from where you hail. and if your wallis proves not to work out I may be interested. sorry no help on your questions. really not to many cape dorys here in portland, just my cutter, my typhoon which i just sold and one other typhoon is all I am aware of. many more in seattle. drop a line re: wallis good luck, ben.t. (milagro)





btlandscapers@imagina.com

[Gene]

SAM
Mahalo came equipped with an Espar cabin heater. Although we have not many occasions to use it we have found it be quite adequate here in the North East.

Gene




courteau@capecod.net

[Matt Cawthorne]

Sam,
I installed a force 10 Diesel heater on my boat several seasons ago. It was simple, relatively inexpensive and draws no current. It is good for extending the season and for working on the boat in the winter, but I would not recommend it for keeping the boat warm round the clock. I would also not leave the heater unattended for very long. It has never given me any trouble, I just do not trust the semi-open flame.
I have heard great things about what an Espar heater will do from another CD-36 owner. He claims that the Espar unit can bring the temperature from 30 to 70 in less than 1/2 hour. If I were going to spend much time on the boat in very cold weather that would be my bet.

Matt

The CD36 we recently acquired has a newer Wallis 3000DX in it, supposedly adequate for the cold NW. It doesn't seem able to keep the temperature up without running 24/7... and then it isn't really a comfortable warm... perhaps it's too small for this size boat??? Has anyone had any experience with other forced air heaters, such as Wobasto or Espar? Is forced air the most desireable, or has anyone had other experience with how to heat a boat this size reasonably quickly (within an hour or less)? Or is hot water heat preferred and if so, why? I hate to replace the Wallis since it's fairly new, but perhaps it would be better suited to a smaller boat, say a CD30 or? Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help, SAM

mcawthor@bellatlantic.net

[chuck yahrling]

The CD36 we recently acquired has a newer Wallis 3000DX in it, supposedly adequate for the cold NW. It doesn't seem able to keep the temperature up without running 24/7... and then it isn't really a comfortable warm... perhaps it's too small for this size boat??? Has anyone had any experience with other forced air heaters, such as Wobasto or Espar? Is forced air the most desireable, or has anyone had other experience with how to heat a boat this size reasonably quickly (within an hour or less)? Or is hot water heat preferred and if so, why? I hate to replace the Wallis since it's fairly new, but perhaps it would be better suited to a smaller boat, say a CD30 or? Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help, SAM

I put an ESPAR model DL1CC in my CD-27 last winter, and was pleased with it this season. I am using it now to keep the inside warm for paint and epoxy work while on the hard in Maine. The installation kit includes all the odds and ends and is easy enough for a do-it-yourselfer, and there is no lost space in the saloon. The heater itself can be tucked into a corner of either cockpit locker elsewhere. They are a bit pricey, but once it's in there's no fussing with fuel, pumps, etc. Just set the thermostat and withing a few minutes you have hot air.

They come in several sizes/capacities, including hot water heaters. The DL1CC ( about 5500 BTU ) would be too small for a CD-36. I think you'd want something like 15,000-20,000 BTU to get good fast heat in cold wx.

Ocean Options in R.I. is the dealer, at least for the East Coast. They may cut you a break off if you buy during the slow season. Goto http://www.sfsailing.com/edinger/espar.html for more info.


Alternatively, talk with Tony Betz, who just put in a Dickenson Newport in his CD-33. It was more than adequate for late fall dinners
on board, and would do well in a Cd-36. However, you have to air-pump periodically to get fuel from the main tank to the stove header tank.



yahrling@cybertours.com

[Ryan Turner]

I've got a CD33 and would like to talk with Tony. Can you provide contact info?

Thanks

Ryan Turner



rturnertec@aol.com

[Chris Reinke]

Here is some info I have for Tony.

FYI - He is a great source of information and LOVES to discuss CDs.
Tony Betz
RR 1,
Box 3798,
Freedom NH
207-450-5863
wildings@ncia.net

Vessel: CD33 "Wildings" from Falmouth, Maine

I've got a CD33 and would like to talk with Tony. Can you provide contact info?

Thanks

Ryan Turner

[Charlie Kepner]

We have a 1983 CD36 that we bought in 1994 and we sail it up & down the New England Coast from June to September/October. She came with a Force 10 Kerosene heater that works very well for us. It takes a litle bit of time to warm up (or dry out the cabin if very wet weather) but does a great job. Only run it when at anchor and don't run it all night- first one up in the morning lights it off!!



janchaskepner@snet.net