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Lew Gresham
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NevisTyphoon
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Extenuating circumstances
I believe the sailer had a sandbar on his starboard side and was forced to try this maneuver to try get out of the way of the ferry which was not turning to starboard to make a safe pass. The ferry captain knew of the sandbar - I think the ferry was determined to be at fault by the courts!
Things may not always be what they appear to be......
Regards,
Things may not always be what they appear to be......
Regards,
Chris Thompson
Nevis, West Indies
Greatness is not in where we stand, but in what direction we are moving. We must sail sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it-but sail we must, and not drift, nor lie at anchor
Oliver Wendell Holmes
Nevis, West Indies
Greatness is not in where we stand, but in what direction we are moving. We must sail sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it-but sail we must, and not drift, nor lie at anchor
Oliver Wendell Holmes
Re: Extenuating circumstances
I dunno, I would much rather go aground in sand then be hit by a ferry... heck even if it was a rockpile that still sounds preferable. THough I agree, there is probably far more to the story.NevisTy wrote:I believe the sailer had a sandbar on his starboard side and was forced to try this maneuver to try get out of the way of the ferry which was not turning to starboard to make a safe pass. The ferry captain knew of the sandbar - I think the ferry was determined to be at fault by the courts!
Things may not always be what they appear to be......
Regards,
Russell
s/v (yet to be named) Tayana 42CC
s/v Lady Pauline Cape Dory 36 #117 (for sale)
s/v (yet to be named) Tayana 42CC
s/v Lady Pauline Cape Dory 36 #117 (for sale)
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Wayne Grenier
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Al Levesque
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I don't recall the accident but I would assume that one vessel struck by another might gain the sympathy of the court. However, the ferry was to starboard of the motoring sailboat and normally should have maintained course. If there was a sandbar to starboard of the motoring sailboat, it didn't just appear in the last few minutes and there may not have been any hazards to port. In either case, there does not seem to be any reason the motoring sailboat could not reverse engines and wait.
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neil
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Run aground or get crushed (and likely killed) the ferry? run aground it is!
Its a very short clip and theres not a lot of information in it but still, they STEERED into the path of the ferry.
It sure looked like a nice boat....
well anyway heres something to brighten the mood of this post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuRvujRFsjY
THAT looks like fun!
Cheers,
Neil
Its a very short clip and theres not a lot of information in it but still, they STEERED into the path of the ferry.
It sure looked like a nice boat....
well anyway heres something to brighten the mood of this post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuRvujRFsjY
THAT looks like fun!
Cheers,
Neil
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Doug Fallin
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Sailing in the Surf
When sailing in the surf who has the right of way, a sailboat or a surfer?
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neil
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hahaha!I wondered that too!
I suppose it comes down to who is being overtaken and who is more or less maneuverable and constrained by draft.... That, and as far as I know surfers seem to take turns.
This brings up the problem of the display of shapes and lights: a lot of surfers seem to be getting towed by jet skis out to the wave which also clearly gives the tow vessel (and what ever it is towing) right of way, however I dont recall seeing the jet ski displaying anything.
GRIN!
I suppose it comes down to who is being overtaken and who is more or less maneuverable and constrained by draft.... That, and as far as I know surfers seem to take turns.
This brings up the problem of the display of shapes and lights: a lot of surfers seem to be getting towed by jet skis out to the wave which also clearly gives the tow vessel (and what ever it is towing) right of way, however I dont recall seeing the jet ski displaying anything.
GRIN!
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Neil Gordon
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Okay... disclaimer first... I'm not a lawyer and certainly not an admiralty lawyer. That said:Al Levesque wrote:I don't recall the accident but I would assume that one vessel struck by another might gain the sympathy of the court.
It's not "what," it's "why." So if one vessel is anchored not displaying the required light(s) and is struck by another (faultless) vessel, the owner of the anchored ship loses.
In the case of the sailboat and the ferry, if the boat crossed in front of the ferry and was hit, vs. the ferry crossing first and being hit by the boat, I don't think that's a critical difference. It's who was obligated to do what in accordance with the rules.
Rules aside, it's good practice not to mess with ferries.
Fair winds, Neil
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Boston, MA
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s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
Boston, MA
CDSOA member #698