CD 33 Replacement Traveler

[ken jones]

Can anyone tell me what brand and model traveler they purchased for a replacement on a CD 33?

[s.v. LaVida]

Ken,

I pondered the same problem and found that the OEM does not mfg the part anymore.

The only thing I could come up with was to piggy back another traveler on top of the old one. Something I don't want to do.

Getting at the fasteners is the main problem, perhaps there is a way around the problem.

What hull number do you have? Mine is 40.

Perhaps Leo has some thoughts.............

rit

[ken jones]

Traveler parts were available from Rig-rite in Warwick, RI.
They were a lose fit--really rattled around--I was looking to replace the complete current system with something new.
I have been talking to Schaefer Marine in Ma. about a system model similar to their unit # 42-00 or a design they may come up with for me. They may adapt to the current bridge, on the cabin top as my boat is a mid-boom system. ( Cutter rigged )

Thank you for your response.

Ken Jones

[s.v. LaVida]

Ken,

I'd also like something completely new.

Fortunately you've got it a lot easier with the cutter layout, than I.

LaVida is a sloop and the traveler is in the cockpit.

Taking the old unit out isn't the problem, putting something back in is.

Rit

[ken jones]

Rit

Your system should be easier to replace since the traveler track is flat. I suggest that you contact Schaefer for one of their catalogs or go on line for Harken. I found that Schaefer, Dave Anderson, at sales@schaefermarine.com was very helpful and knowledgeable of their products. Harken more or less just advised me to go to their web site, select a system and call them with questions.

Good luck,

Ken

[mahalocd36]

Can anyone tell me what brand and model traveler they purchased for a replacement on a CD 33?

There was a discussion about traveller's not too long ago on this board... we got a gaurhauer one built to specifications to match the old, with holes in the right place, etc.

http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=20527

(go to the second half of the discussion)

[Ed Haley]

I just ordered a Garhauer traveler for my mid-boom arrangement. It will be here in 3-4 weeks or so. There are ways to remove the old track from the bridge and usually involve inserting a utility cable housing with wrench attached to grab the inside nut. Anyway, that's what I'm about to try.

There may be issues with removing the bridge from the cabin top but it's not as hard as it seems.

I talked with Guido at the California shop and he was helpful in getting exact measurements. They have a 5 week backup.

[ken jones]

ED

Thanks for your reply to my request.
Are you removing the track from the bridge. Are you saying the track is bolted onto the bridge? If so, how did they do so with such a long reach?
You mentioned removing the bridge from the boat, is this correct?
I have removed the bridge from the boat in the past without any problems.

Ken

[bottomscraper]

ED
Are you saying the track is bolted onto the bridge? If so, how did they do so with such a long reach?
Ken

If it's like the 36, yes bolts with nuts. See my post on this subject from a few weeks ago.

http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic ... c&start=15

[Ed Haley]

Ken:
Mokita's traveler is mounted on a curved bridge and the bridge is mounted at the ends with raised mounts onto the cabin top just forward of the companionway as shown below:
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sra ... 17fce3.jpg[/img]
The traveler itself is mounted to the bridge with about 12 bolts that go through the traveler track and into the bridge. So they must be about 2 inches long or thereabouts. The bolts are 1/4 inch flathead with machined threads.

To remove the nuts inside the bridge, others have ducktaped an open or box end wrench to a stiff utility cable and inserted it into the bridge until it hopefully engages a nut. Then back out the bolt. I haven't tried it yet but will when the new traveler comes in.

Plenty of Liquid Wrench is needed and maybe even an impact screwdriver to remove the single screw at the end of the bridge that goes through the upright mount. Then loosen the 4 supporting bolts for the raised support and maybe there's enout play to take the bridge out. If not, I'm prepared to remove the 4 support bolts one at a time and replace each bolt with a really long bolt to prevent the plate under the deck from moving. I've been told it won't but I'd feel safer doing that extra step that have to do something drastic to attach the support later.

The reason there's such a steep learning curve is that it seems every time we have a project to do it's the first time

[ken jones]

Ed

Please keep me posted on your progress with this project. THe more I look into the replacement process the more difficult it becomes. I have not found anyone that has done this in the past, however I know that it has been done. Where are all of the CD 33 owners that have done this over the years? They could save us much grief.


Good luck

Ken

[cbrenton]

Hi Ken,

I have a Harken traveler on Carol Anne. I think that it has been an immense improvement over the original CD traveler, which was almost impossible to adjust under any kind of load. If you want to take a look, please feel free to take a ladder and go check it out. She is at GBM, up in Russell Park-third row back.

Charlie Brenton
"Carol Anne" CD 33

[mahalocd36]

I have not found anyone that has done this in the past, however I know that it has been done. Where are all of the CD 33 owners that have done this over the years? They could save us much grief.

I guess I'm not sure why you say that....unless the CD36 is drastically different from the CD33. But we've done as have others, and you've been pointed to previous posts on the subject.

Is there a question that we can answer for you that hasn't already been answered?

[ken jones]

mahalocd36

My last reply was written because I did not read or wait long enough for all of the replies to be posted in response to my request. In reading my posting again I now realize that it sounded as if I were being very unfair to all the good members of our organization. This was not my intention.
I have received very good advice and other information from many members that will save me time and allow me to perform this task the correct way the first time around.

Charlie Brenton:

Thank you for your offer to board your boat Carol Anne, CD 33, that is stored in the same marina as my CD 33. I will accept your offer and take a look tomorrow 4/24.

What great responses to my request!

Thank you

Ken

[Cathy Monaghan]

Ken,

Here's a suggestion that you may want to ponder.

Leave the existing traveller track where it is in the cockpit. It is a BIG job to remove and repair the fiberglass beneath it. With the blocks and lines removed, the old track will be out of the way and you can still work and sit in the cockpit with it there.

Install a new traveller and bridge on the coach roof just forward of the companionway hatch. Take a look at Ed Haley's CD330, that's where Cape Dory put the traveller on that "new" version of the 33. Harken makes a nice traveller system. Though Ed's bridge is curved to match the camber of the coach roof, you do not need a curved bridge.



Anyway, it's something to think about.


Fair winds,
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay