White sanit hose ... follow up

[Chris Scheck]

Thanks for all the answers to my post regarding installing white sanit hose. I just finished replacing three hoses on the head, toilet, MSD, whatever you want to call it. This is definitely one of those projects that takes longer than you think. Here's what I learned ...
Inspect the hoses in your head at least once a year. The steel wire inside the black fabric hose rusts after a few years, and actually splits the fabric open.
The white sanit hose certainly looks a lot nicer than the black stuff. But it is so stiff that you may not be able to fit it in if you have to bend it around corners to go thru holes cut in your bulkheads under the sink. The black stuff, even though it has steel wire in it, is more flexible than the white.
The white stuff may not fit over the nipple on your thru-hull fitting. My thru hull has a big rib on the end of the nipple. Even with grease and a heat gun, I couldn't get the white stuff to slide over it. Spent about an hour crouched in the head, but no luck. After I softened up the white hose with the heat gun, it just collapsed when I tried to push it over the nipple. Had to go back to West and get another piece of ugly black 3/4" water hose. It's flexible enough to slide over that rib.
Now, a question ... my thru hull for the intake to the head keeps dripping. If I tighten it enough to stop the drip, it's almost impossible to turn the handle. Any suggestions?

Chris Scheck
RAGTIME CD33
Newport



cscheck@aol.com

[Boyd]

Hi Chris..

Good info on the white hose.. I think I will stick to black.

Time to rebuild the seacock. See my posts on that subject or e-mail me for more info. Managed to do it in the water.

Boyd
s/v Tern
CD 30 MkII
Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

Thanks for all the answers to my post regarding installing white sanit hose. I just finished replacing three hoses on the head, toilet, MSD, whatever you want to call it. This is definitely one of those projects that takes longer than you think. Here's what I learned ...
Inspect the hoses in your head at least once a year. The steel wire inside the black fabric hose rusts after a few years, and actually splits the fabric open.
The white sanit hose certainly looks a lot nicer than the black stuff. But it is so stiff that you may not be able to fit it in if you have to bend it around corners to go thru holes cut in your bulkheads under the sink. The black stuff, even though it has steel wire in it, is more flexible than the white.
The white stuff may not fit over the nipple on your thru-hull fitting. My thru hull has a big rib on the end of the nipple. Even with grease and a heat gun, I couldn't get the white stuff to slide over it. Spent about an hour crouched in the head, but no luck. After I softened up the white hose with the heat gun, it just collapsed when I tried to push it over the nipple. Had to go back to West and get another piece of ugly black 3/4" water hose. It's flexible enough to slide over that rib.
Now, a question ... my thru hull for the intake to the head keeps dripping. If I tighten it enough to stop the drip, it's almost impossible to turn the handle. Any suggestions?

Chris Scheck
RAGTIME CD33
Newport

Boyd@wbta.cc

[Ken Cave]

White hose is great-though tough to work with. And, it will last years before it is needed to be replaced.

What happens when you use sea water in your head is you also pick up anything that is floating by-and that gets caught up in the holes of the head thus causing those wonderful smells

I just installed a fresh water tank which is a six gallon plastic gas can mounted just aft of the holding tank with a Y valve-so I can use sea water if I have to, but usually use the fresh water for most purposes. Six gallons usually last a week-and you have no salt buildup, pump problems, or smells that permeate the boat!!

Took about an hour and about $30.00 for the parts.

Ken Cave
Dragon Tale
Cape Dory 28
Anacortes, WA



bcave@whidbey.net

[Chris Scheck]

Gee, I thought it was what I was pumping OUT of the head that was causing those odors! Especially since the discharge hoses are lined with hardened stuff that looks like "mud," to put it nicely. Please tell me why you think it's the seawater that smells ...


Chris Scheck
RAGTIME CD33
Newport



cscheck@aol.com

[Larry DeMers]

Biologicals rot when dead, and not all of them are in the hose..some are in the bowl under the rim, some are in the pump body etc. Salt water is known for this very factor.

The idea of using freshwater for flushing is a great one, I think. Avoid the whole darn problem of using seawater for flushes.

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30

Gee, I thought it was what I was pumping OUT of the head that was causing those odors! Especially since the discharge hoses are lined with hardened stuff that looks like "mud," to put it nicely. Please tell me why you think it's the seawater that smells ...


Chris Scheck
RAGTIME CD33
Newport

demers@sgi.com

[Richard Hill]

White hose is great-though tough to work with. And, it will last years before it is needed to be replaced.

What happens when you use sea water in your head is you also pick up anything that is floating by-and that gets caught up in the holes of the head thus causing those wonderful smells

I just installed a fresh water tank which is a six gallon plastic gas can mounted just aft of the holding tank with a Y valve-so I can use sea water if I have to, but usually use the fresh water for most purposes. Six gallons usually last a week-and you have no salt buildup, pump problems, or smells that permeate the boat!!

Took about an hour and about $30.00 for the parts.

Ken Cave
Dragon Tale
Cape Dory 28
Anacortes, WA

Ken's right about this. I have taken a middleground approach, however. When I'm out sailing, I use seawater for flushing, but when I get back to the dock, I flush the toilet a few times with some fresh water. This gets rid of the nasty little bits the sea left behind. If you leave those standing, they start to decay and don't smell so nice! It's worked so far.



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