Diagnostic Puzzle for the weekend
Moderator: Jim Walsh
Diagnostic Puzzle for the weekend
First right answer wins a smile and a Dark 'n Stormy somewhere down the creek:
Engine is running and has been for 15 minutes.
Combination oil pressure/temperature alarm sounds.
Temp gauge reads around 200 degrees F.
Tachometer reads 0.
Oil pressure was probably OK, but I didn't spend a lot of time studying it.
We shut the engine down, raised the main, drifted into too little water, got repositioned, anchored, and solved the problem. What was it?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Engine is running and has been for 15 minutes.
Combination oil pressure/temperature alarm sounds.
Temp gauge reads around 200 degrees F.
Tachometer reads 0.
Oil pressure was probably OK, but I didn't spend a lot of time studying it.
We shut the engine down, raised the main, drifted into too little water, got repositioned, anchored, and solved the problem. What was it?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: Diagnostic Puzzle for the weekend
If you have a belt driven water pump, my guess would be that you threw the belt that drives the alternator and water pump. Thus the tach would read zero and the water temp would start to climb. You didn't say whether the ammeter gauge was showing normal charge, but with no ammeter belt it wouldn't be chargin either. If you have a shaft driver water pump, the I'll have to reconsider the problem.
TomCambria@mindspring.com
Ken Coit wrote: First right answer wins a smile and a Dark 'n Stormy somewhere down the creek:
Engine is running and has been for 15 minutes.
Combination oil pressure/temperature alarm sounds.
Temp gauge reads around 200 degrees F.
Tachometer reads 0.
Oil pressure was probably OK, but I didn't spend a lot of time studying it.
We shut the engine down, raised the main, drifted into too little water, got repositioned, anchored, and solved the problem. What was it?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
TomCambria@mindspring.com
Re: Diagnostic Puzzle for the weekend
Sounds to me like a problem with having a deisel engine. Maybe I should rethink moving-up from my CD25 (lol). At any rate, I have a bottle of Goslings Black Seal Rum and some Stewarts Ginger Beer right here now so I'll drink a toast to you guys back in NC. Maybe it'll warm me up a little as it's 43 degrees now at 2am here in Northern Maine. Wish I were still on the Neuse, Scott
capedorysailor@earthlink.net
capedorysailor@earthlink.net
Re: Diagnostic Puzzle for the weekend
Ken - Interesting challenge.
I would first give a quick visual check of the alternator belt as that would cause the tach to read zero, but I do not believe that would explain the temp/pressure alarm. My second task would be to check the main engine fuse. On my Universal it is located behind the engine cockpit gauge console. The diesel engine could continue to run without the fuse, but the tach would be inoperable. After that I would start scratching my head, offer a drink to Neptune and call Sea Tow.
I would first give a quick visual check of the alternator belt as that would cause the tach to read zero, but I do not believe that would explain the temp/pressure alarm. My second task would be to check the main engine fuse. On my Universal it is located behind the engine cockpit gauge console. The diesel engine could continue to run without the fuse, but the tach would be inoperable. After that I would start scratching my head, offer a drink to Neptune and call Sea Tow.
Ken Coit wrote: First right answer wins a smile and a Dark 'n Stormy somewhere down the creek:
Engine is running and has been for 15 minutes.
Combination oil pressure/temperature alarm sounds.
Temp gauge reads around 200 degrees F.
Tachometer reads 0.
Oil pressure was probably OK, but I didn't spend a lot of time studying it.
We shut the engine down, raised the main, drifted into too little water, got repositioned, anchored, and solved the problem. What was it?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
The Winner is: Tom
I could have mentioned a few more clues, but I thought that was enough. The engine is a Perkins 4-108, the voltmeter read zip, and the tach reading should have been diagnostic, but I had to look. What I found was a rather frayed belt, recently tightened rather than replaced, and it had jumped off the alternator pulley.
Tightening the belt the day before had cured the squeak that was worrying me, but it didn't help the belt at all. I wish I had given that belt a closer inspection, but it appeared to be good as new when I tightened it. Apparently it was in the process of self-destructing and I helped it along.
It is time to buy another spare, to back up the second one.
Tom, is there any chance you are headed to the Annual Meeting in November? A dark 'n stormy awaits you - somewhere yet TBD.
Keep on sailing,
Ken
Ken
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Tightening the belt the day before had cured the squeak that was worrying me, but it didn't help the belt at all. I wish I had given that belt a closer inspection, but it appeared to be good as new when I tightened it. Apparently it was in the process of self-destructing and I helped it along.
It is time to buy another spare, to back up the second one.
Tom, is there any chance you are headed to the Annual Meeting in November? A dark 'n stormy awaits you - somewhere yet TBD.
Keep on sailing,
Ken
Ken
Tom wrote: If you have a belt driven water pump, my guess would be that you threw the belt that drives the alternator and water pump. Thus the tach would read zero and the water temp would start to climb. You didn't say whether the ammeter gauge was showing normal charge, but with no ammeter belt it wouldn't be chargin either. If you have a shaft driver water pump, the I'll have to reconsider the problem.
Ken Coit wrote: First right answer wins a smile and a Dark 'n Stormy somewhere down the creek:
Engine is running and has been for 15 minutes.
Combination oil pressure/temperature alarm sounds.
Temp gauge reads around 200 degrees F.
Tachometer reads 0.
Oil pressure was probably OK, but I didn't spend a lot of time studying it.
We shut the engine down, raised the main, drifted into too little water, got repositioned, anchored, and solved the problem. What was it?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: The Winner is: Tom
Damn! Too late. I was gonna suggest you call Car Talk!Ken Coit wrote: I could have mentioned a few more clues, but I thought that was enough. The engine is a Perkins 4-108, the voltmeter read zip, and the tach reading should have been diagnostic, but I had to look. What I found was a rather frayed belt, recently tightened rather than replaced, and it had jumped off the alternator pulley.
Tightening the belt the day before had cured the squeak that was worrying me, but it didn't help the belt at all. I wish I had given that belt a closer inspection, but it appeared to be good as new when I tightened it. Apparently it was in the process of self-destructing and I helped it along.
It is time to buy another spare, to back up the second one.
Tom, is there any chance you are headed to the Annual Meeting in November? A dark 'n stormy awaits you - somewhere yet TBD.
Keep on sailing,
Ken
Ken
Tom wrote: If you have a belt driven water pump, my guess would be that you threw the belt that drives the alternator and water pump. Thus the tach would read zero and the water temp would start to climb. You didn't say whether the ammeter gauge was showing normal charge, but with no ammeter belt it wouldn't be chargin either. If you have a shaft driver water pump, the I'll have to reconsider the problem.
Ken Coit wrote: First right answer wins a smile and a Dark 'n Stormy somewhere down the creek:
Engine is running and has been for 15 minutes.
Combination oil pressure/temperature alarm sounds.
Temp gauge reads around 200 degrees F.
Tachometer reads 0.
Oil pressure was probably OK, but I didn't spend a lot of time studying it.
We shut the engine down, raised the main, drifted into too little water, got repositioned, anchored, and solved the problem. What was it?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
captrahill@comcast.net
Prize
Do I get a Click and Clack T shirt from the Tappet Bros?
TomCambria@mindspring.com
Richard Hill wrote:Damn! Too late. I was gonna suggest you call Car Talk!Ken Coit wrote: I could have mentioned a few more clues, but I thought that was enough. The engine is a Perkins 4-108, the voltmeter read zip, and the tach reading should have been diagnostic, but I had to look. What I found was a rather frayed belt, recently tightened rather than replaced, and it had jumped off the alternator pulley.
Tightening the belt the day before had cured the squeak that was worrying me, but it didn't help the belt at all. I wish I had given that belt a closer inspection, but it appeared to be good as new when I tightened it. Apparently it was in the process of self-destructing and I helped it along.
It is time to buy another spare, to back up the second one.
Tom, is there any chance you are headed to the Annual Meeting in November? A dark 'n stormy awaits you - somewhere yet TBD.
Keep on sailing,
Ken
Ken
Tom wrote: If you have a belt driven water pump, my guess would be that you threw the belt that drives the alternator and water pump. Thus the tach would read zero and the water temp would start to climb. You didn't say whether the ammeter gauge was showing normal charge, but with no ammeter belt it wouldn't be chargin either. If you have a shaft driver water pump, the I'll have to reconsider the problem.
TomCambria@mindspring.com
Re: Prize
****NO, you moron!! You get a wild ass guess for an answer! Maybe a return trip via Stump the Chumps.****Tom wrote: Do I get a Click and Clack T shirt from the Tappet Bros?
Now. Which staff member is their sailing expert? Any suggestions?
captrahill@comcast.net
No, but....
if Dark 'n Stormys aren't your thing, maybe you have another favorite beverage that won't break the bank?
Ken
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Ken
Tom wrote: Do I get a Click and Clack T shirt from the Tappet Bros?
Richard Hill wrote:Damn! Too late. I was gonna suggest you call Car Talk!Ken Coit wrote: I could have mentioned a few more clues, but I thought that was enough. The engine is a Perkins 4-108, the voltmeter read zip, and the tach reading should have been diagnostic, but I had to look. What I found was a rather frayed belt, recently tightened rather than replaced, and it had jumped off the alternator pulley.
Tightening the belt the day before had cured the squeak that was worrying me, but it didn't help the belt at all. I wish I had given that belt a closer inspection, but it appeared to be good as new when I tightened it. Apparently it was in the process of self-destructing and I helped it along.
It is time to buy another spare, to back up the second one.
Tom, is there any chance you are headed to the Annual Meeting in November? A dark 'n stormy awaits you - somewhere yet TBD.
Keep on sailing,
Ken
Ken
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: Diagnostic Puzzle for the weekend
I'm curious, what goes into a Dark'n Stormy and in what proportions.Chris wrote: Ken - Interesting challenge.
I would first give a quick visual check of the alternator belt as that would cause the tach to read zero, but I do not believe that would explain the temp/pressure alarm. My second task would be to check the main engine fuse. On my Universal it is located behind the engine cockpit gauge console. The diesel engine could continue to run without the fuse, but the tach would be inoperable. After that I would start scratching my head, offer a drink to Neptune and call Sea Tow.
Ken Coit wrote: First right answer wins a smile and a Dark 'n Stormy somewhere down the creek:
Engine is running and has been for 15 minutes.
Combination oil pressure/temperature alarm sounds.
Temp gauge reads around 200 degrees F.
Tachometer reads 0.
Oil pressure was probably OK, but I didn't spend a lot of time studying it.
We shut the engine down, raised the main, drifted into too little water, got repositioned, anchored, and solved the problem. What was it?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
branchedoakmarin@aol.com
Dark 'n Stormy Recipe Sources
Check out Andy Denmark's posting at the link below. Or, go to the Gosling site at: http://www.blackseal.com/
Enjoy!
Ken
[img]http://www.blackseal.com/images/sidepan ... stormy.gif[/img]
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Enjoy!
Ken
[img]http://www.blackseal.com/images/sidepan ... stormy.gif[/img]
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: Prize
Star Boardtack? Lee Shore? Cam Cleat? Warren Mainsail? Raul Erreefing? Stop me before I hurt myself and others.
royjacobowitz@hotmail.com
royjacobowitz@hotmail.com
Re: Prize
Well, I guess there aren't many true Car Talk devotees out there. But your suggestions were great! Lee Shore deserves a Dark n' Stormy when next we meet (I'm in Savannah).
captrahill@comcast.net
Roy Jacobowitz wrote: Star Boardtack? Lee Shore? Cam Cleat? Warren Mainsail? Raul Erreefing? Stop me before I hurt myself and others.
captrahill@comcast.net