RIGGING BROUGHT to thecockpit
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RIGGING BROUGHT to thecockpit
I wrote in a few days ago about seting the Cape Dory 25 for single-handing.. I will mostly single-hand the boat as I find I enjoy it and have more time than most people to sail.Thanks for the responce..... But I think you all missed my point. I admit the Cape Dory 25 is a easy boat to sail as is!!!! Yes I have had the tiller between my legs and so on... But here is my point ... let's say things got rough, garandma was aboard, your wife was giving birth, you had no legs and just one arm and you had storm gusts and a large front moviing in? and the motor won't start.... ? Did I mention the rocks?
Sounds bad but this could happen or something worse ?? wouldn't you want to have the boat easier if a real problem arose?...... Like being able to drop the head sail by pulling on a down-hual sheet and leting go of the halyard all from the cockpit? And the same for the main? How 'bout puting a ridgid boom vang on and runing that back to? halyard for the spinnaker with a down hual? How 'bout reefing lines? different reefing systems? What if you wanted to drop and lift the anchor form the cockit? Autopilot? You might be hurt and have limited ability. It seems that it would be wise to set the boat up so you didn't have to leave the cockpit... This is not to say that you would never leave it... I know things do break and these are the times that having thigs set up nice is a blessing..... Has anybody set up something like this? I'm going to want to instal a dodger as I would have to work around that too. I want to be able to cross the Columbia river bar and head north along the coast to the islands above Seatle up into Canada.There are some stormy seas and it's always better to plain it out on dry land first. I would like to see diagrams or ..... better pictures of what you have done. thanks... Mike windowgrafx@attbi.com
www.windowgrafx@attbi.com
Sounds bad but this could happen or something worse ?? wouldn't you want to have the boat easier if a real problem arose?...... Like being able to drop the head sail by pulling on a down-hual sheet and leting go of the halyard all from the cockpit? And the same for the main? How 'bout puting a ridgid boom vang on and runing that back to? halyard for the spinnaker with a down hual? How 'bout reefing lines? different reefing systems? What if you wanted to drop and lift the anchor form the cockit? Autopilot? You might be hurt and have limited ability. It seems that it would be wise to set the boat up so you didn't have to leave the cockpit... This is not to say that you would never leave it... I know things do break and these are the times that having thigs set up nice is a blessing..... Has anybody set up something like this? I'm going to want to instal a dodger as I would have to work around that too. I want to be able to cross the Columbia river bar and head north along the coast to the islands above Seatle up into Canada.There are some stormy seas and it's always better to plain it out on dry land first. I would like to see diagrams or ..... better pictures of what you have done. thanks... Mike windowgrafx@attbi.com
www.windowgrafx@attbi.com
Ah! The Columbia River Bar,
where the Coasties train to save us from ourselves and Mother Nature.
I don't have any more suggestions for making you CD bar-proof, but I now understand why you are so concerned. Have you thought about more user-friendly waters?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
I don't have any more suggestions for making you CD bar-proof, but I now understand why you are so concerned. Have you thought about more user-friendly waters?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
Mike Oldenburg wrote: I wrote in a few days ago about seting the Cape Dory 25 for single-handing.. I will mostly single-hand the boat as I find I enjoy it and have more time than most people to sail.Thanks for the responce..... But I think you all missed my point. I admit the Cape Dory 25 is a easy boat to sail as is!!!! Yes I have had the tiller between my legs and so on... But here is my point ... let's say things got rough, garandma was aboard, your wife was giving birth, you had no legs and just one arm and you had storm gusts and a large front moviing in? and the motor won't start.... ? Did I mention the rocks?
Sounds bad but this could happen or something worse ?? wouldn't you want to have the boat easier if a real problem arose?...... Like being able to drop the head sail by pulling on a down-hual sheet and leting go of the halyard all from the cockpit? And the same for the main? How 'bout puting a ridgid boom vang on and runing that back to? halyard for the spinnaker with a down hual? How 'bout reefing lines? different reefing systems? What if you wanted to drop and lift the anchor form the cockit? Autopilot? You might be hurt and have limited ability. It seems that it would be wise to set the boat up so you didn't have to leave the cockpit... This is not to say that you would never leave it... I know things do break and these are the times that having thigs set up nice is a blessing..... Has anybody set up something like this? I'm going to want to instal a dodger as I would have to work around that too. I want to be able to cross the Columbia river bar and head north along the coast to the islands above Seatle up into Canada.There are some stormy seas and it's always better to plain it out on dry land first. I would like to see diagrams or ..... better pictures of what you have done. thanks... Mike windowgrafx@attbi.com
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: RIGGING BROUGHT to thecockpit
Mike,
This has worked out pretty well for me. The dodger does tend to be in the way a bit though. Between this and a roller furling genoa, all reefing is done from the cockpit now.
Cheers,
Jon
CD25 Sovereign
[img]http://www.sailorjon.net/images/HalReefLedAft.jpg[/img]
This has worked out pretty well for me. The dodger does tend to be in the way a bit though. Between this and a roller furling genoa, all reefing is done from the cockpit now.
Cheers,
Jon
CD25 Sovereign
[img]http://www.sailorjon.net/images/HalReefLedAft.jpg[/img]
Re: RIGGING BROUGHT to thecockpit
While this is not a Cape Dory, it is a boat about the same size and it could help you think out your particular needs and desires.
You might find additional information by doing and internet search for "deck layout". Toss in another key word like "winch" and that should help narrow the search.
Pat
patrick.t@attbi.com
You might find additional information by doing and internet search for "deck layout". Toss in another key word like "winch" and that should help narrow the search.
Pat
patrick.t@attbi.com
Get to know your boat
Get to know your boat and you'll sort through the priorities for making changes to how the rig is set up, etc. Remember that everything is a compromise.
From my point of view:
Roller furling is great. It's just too easy to furl the jib when the wind is light and the motor goes on and then let it out again when the motor goes off, etc. (Unfortunately, that happens lots.) And it's easy at the end of a sail to just roll it up. Also easy to reduce sail without having to go on the foredeck and have multiple sails to deal with.
One reason not to bring everything else back to the cockpit is that you get to know your way around your boat. If you need to go forward in adverse conditions, it's good to be very familiar with the motion of the boat, handholds, etc., etc. You learn that by practicing.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
From my point of view:
Roller furling is great. It's just too easy to furl the jib when the wind is light and the motor goes on and then let it out again when the motor goes off, etc. (Unfortunately, that happens lots.) And it's easy at the end of a sail to just roll it up. Also easy to reduce sail without having to go on the foredeck and have multiple sails to deal with.
One reason not to bring everything else back to the cockpit is that you get to know your way around your boat. If you need to go forward in adverse conditions, it's good to be very familiar with the motion of the boat, handholds, etc., etc. You learn that by practicing.
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Re: Get to know your boat
I agree. And, let's not forget the benefit of extra space created below deck by not having to store those headsails in bags somewhere. A roller headsail stores itself on the headstay, freeing up space elsewhere on the boat. Between a roller and inflatable PFDs, a great deal of precious space can be freed up on a small boat.Neil Gordon wrote: Roller furling is great. It's just too easy to furl the jib when the wind is light and the motor goes on and then let it out again when the motor goes off, etc. (Unfortunately, that happens lots.) And it's easy at the end of a sail to just roll it up. Also easy to reduce sail without having to go on the foredeck and have multiple sails to deal with.
Jon
CD25 Sovereign
Re: RIGGING BROUGHT to thecockpit
This is not a great photo but does show how our 25d is set up to run lines to the cockpit. The narrow dodger is nice as it allows unobstructed use of the winches on either side yet protects the companionway .
[img]http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/vie ... 138909#top[/img]
[img]http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/vie ... 138909#top[/img]
Re: RIGGING BROUGHT to thecockpit
Back to the drawing board. For some reason a direct imiage URL did not work. I'll try the optional URL link.
Photo URL needs to be JPEG or GIF
Image URL needs to be JPEG, GIF or PNG (at least I think it should take a PNG -- haven't tried it). All other URLs should be entered as "Link" URLs. Either way, we get to see them. By they way, nice photo. Which line is running down the cowl vent?
Cathy Monaghan
CD32 Realization, #3
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
CDSOA Webmaster
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Cathy Monaghan
CD32 Realization, #3
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
CDSOA Webmaster
Mike L wrote: Back to the drawing board. For some reason a direct imiage URL did not work. I'll try the optional URL link.
catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com
Re: Photo URL needs to be JPEG or GIF
Mike,
Apparently, a PTP file works as well.
The direct link to the photo is:
http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL30/1379 ... 138909.ptp
rather than:
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/vie ... 138909#top
But it may have an expiration date and only be accessible for a short period.
Cathy
[img]http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL30/1379 ... 138909.ptp[/img]
catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com
Apparently, a PTP file works as well.
The direct link to the photo is:
http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL30/1379 ... 138909.ptp
rather than:
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/vie ... 138909#top
But it may have an expiration date and only be accessible for a short period.
Cathy
[img]http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL30/1379 ... 138909.ptp[/img]
catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com
Re: Photo URL needs to be JPEG or GIF
Thats a temp shore power cord in the vent. The photo was taken in December at the marina in Bellingham Washington. A beautiful weekend but a bit chilly at night. We were using a small electric space heater.
mikit@pioneer-net.com
Assistant Webmaster wrote:
Cathy Monaghan
CD32 Realization, #3
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
CDSOA Webmaster
Mike L wrote: Back to the drawing board. For some reason a direct imiage URL did not work. I'll try the optional URL link.
mikit@pioneer-net.com