Applying Cetol in wet weather?
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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Tom R
Applying Cetol in wet weather?
The teak for my typhoon is sitting in my garage. I want to start applying Cetol, but it says not to apply in wet weather. As it looks like rain this weekend, I want to know if "they" are they worried about actual moisture or is the humidity the problem. I will have to have the garage door open due to the fumes, but it should be relatively dry. The wood itself should be dry as it has been off the boat and covered for several months. Any advice is appreciated.
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Ed Haley
Re: Applying Cetol in wet weather?
In your case, application of the Cetol should be fine. The precautions are mainly to prevent application of the Cetol on wet wood or application during wet conditions while outside. As long as you teak is dry and inside the garage, go ahead and do your thing.
Preparation is the key to doing a fine job. Removing all the old paint/varnish (unless applying over previous coats of Cetol), bleaching/cleaning the teak, sanding and removing the dust, then drying it well should result in a nice finish.
I use Cetol quite a bit. I like to put down 3 coats of Marine Stain and then 3 coats of Cetol gloss. It's what I like to see on my boats. And the effort is all worth it since the job lasts years and years. I add another coat each year of each type. Never been happier!
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
Still on the Erie Canal
(Maybe heading out this weekend after almost 4 weeks)
eghaleyNOSPAM@twcny.rr.com
Preparation is the key to doing a fine job. Removing all the old paint/varnish (unless applying over previous coats of Cetol), bleaching/cleaning the teak, sanding and removing the dust, then drying it well should result in a nice finish.
I use Cetol quite a bit. I like to put down 3 coats of Marine Stain and then 3 coats of Cetol gloss. It's what I like to see on my boats. And the effort is all worth it since the job lasts years and years. I add another coat each year of each type. Never been happier!
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
Still on the Erie Canal
(Maybe heading out this weekend after almost 4 weeks)
eghaleyNOSPAM@twcny.rr.com
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Chris Scheck
Re: Applying Cetol in wet weather?
This is what I can tell you ... after sanding all day, I wanted to put the Cetol on the handrails, dorade boxes, etc and be done with it. It was already 6 pm on Sunday afternoon. So I went ahead and did it. When I went to the boat a week later, the horizontal surfaces had dried with a most unappealingly cloudy haze to them, but the vertical surfaces were nice and shiny. I think that where the dew settles on the wet Cetol, you get a cloudy look.
My guess is that elevated humidity, as long as it isn't actually wet, wouldn't hoit, as they say.
cscheck@aol.com
My guess is that elevated humidity, as long as it isn't actually wet, wouldn't hoit, as they say.
cscheck@aol.com
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Chris Scheck
Re: Applying Cetol in wet weather?
After sanding all day Sunday, I wanted to hurry up and paint it on. So I did my handrails, companionway opening, etc around 6 pm. When I went out to the mooring the following weekend, the horizontal surfaces had dried with a cloudy haze. The vertical surfaces were nice and shiny. I think that wherever the dew settles, you get that hazy look.
I'll bet you could work in the garage with no problem. Cetol isn't nearly as sensitive to humidity as varnish.
cscheck@aol.com
I'll bet you could work in the garage with no problem. Cetol isn't nearly as sensitive to humidity as varnish.
cscheck@aol.com
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Chris Scheck
Re: Applying Cetol in wet weather?
Ed -
nice to hear from someone who likes Cetol, now that it seems to be losing favor with a lot of folks on this board. I did a tremendous amount of sanding, but I guess I was a little eager to get finished ... I put on 2 coats of Satin Light and it cracked and peeled off in several places in just one season. Would you talk about your rationale for 3 and 3 ... seems like a lot ... but it's working for you ....
cscheck@aol.com
nice to hear from someone who likes Cetol, now that it seems to be losing favor with a lot of folks on this board. I did a tremendous amount of sanding, but I guess I was a little eager to get finished ... I put on 2 coats of Satin Light and it cracked and peeled off in several places in just one season. Would you talk about your rationale for 3 and 3 ... seems like a lot ... but it's working for you ....
cscheck@aol.com
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Ed Haley
Re: Applying Cetol in wet weather?
I like to put on 3 coats of the marine stain as it given me the color and shades I like to see in my teak. The wood is like furniture grade and the grain shows up reasonable well though not as well as with Captain's Varnish. The 3 coats of gloss over the satin provides additional uv and physical protection. I like the gloss look.
I don't use Cetol for all the teak on my boats. I like to use Captains Varnish on the companionway beams and step. Down below I will use Epithanes Rubbed-Effect on the interior wood, table, etc. On the bow pulpit I used Bristol Finish this year and will put additional coats on it as soon as I get through the canal system.
I like the Cetol on my toerail since it adheres well. If I have to touch it up, it is real easy. And best of all, it doesn't come off in sheets as varnish used to do when abused. There hasn't been anything that's held up better than Cetol on my toerails. I wouldn't use anything else.
Try various products and find out which you like. Then stick with it. Remember, preparation of the wood is the key to a great result. Try some test pieces of oak at home with various varnishes and synthetics during the winter months and see what you like best. It's your boat so make it look the way you want it.
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
On the Erie Canal
eghaleyNOSPAM@twcny.rr.com
I don't use Cetol for all the teak on my boats. I like to use Captains Varnish on the companionway beams and step. Down below I will use Epithanes Rubbed-Effect on the interior wood, table, etc. On the bow pulpit I used Bristol Finish this year and will put additional coats on it as soon as I get through the canal system.
I like the Cetol on my toerail since it adheres well. If I have to touch it up, it is real easy. And best of all, it doesn't come off in sheets as varnish used to do when abused. There hasn't been anything that's held up better than Cetol on my toerails. I wouldn't use anything else.
Try various products and find out which you like. Then stick with it. Remember, preparation of the wood is the key to a great result. Try some test pieces of oak at home with various varnishes and synthetics during the winter months and see what you like best. It's your boat so make it look the way you want it.
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
On the Erie Canal
eghaleyNOSPAM@twcny.rr.com
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Larry DeMers
Re: Applying Cetol in wet weather?
Hey Ed,
Your sitting there in the canal all this time is kinda reminiscent of a couple years back, when our friends onboard the PS31 'Rongevaer' were stuck there for many weeks, awaiting the water levels and cleanup from the winter runoff, before continuing their passage from Superior to Norway.
Some nice gent drove a couple hours from home to bring them beer and water, and companionship as well as transportation to the nearest town for supplies and something new to look at.
I wish I could return that favor you provided to my friends Ed. But I am 24 hours away at least..heh. But I can offer you my good thoughts and hopes for an escape soon.
Cheers and have a Great Sail,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
Lake Superior
demers@sgi.com
Your sitting there in the canal all this time is kinda reminiscent of a couple years back, when our friends onboard the PS31 'Rongevaer' were stuck there for many weeks, awaiting the water levels and cleanup from the winter runoff, before continuing their passage from Superior to Norway.
Some nice gent drove a couple hours from home to bring them beer and water, and companionship as well as transportation to the nearest town for supplies and something new to look at.
I wish I could return that favor you provided to my friends Ed. But I am 24 hours away at least..heh. But I can offer you my good thoughts and hopes for an escape soon.
Cheers and have a Great Sail,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
Lake Superior
Ed Haley wrote: In your case, application of the Cetol should be fine. The precautions are mainly to prevent application of the Cetol on wet wood or application during wet conditions while outside. As long as you teak is dry and inside the garage, go ahead and do your thing.
Preparation is the key to doing a fine job. Removing all the old paint/varnish (unless applying over previous coats of Cetol), bleaching/cleaning the teak, sanding and removing the dust, then drying it well should result in a nice finish.
I use Cetol quite a bit. I like to put down 3 coats of Marine Stain and then 3 coats of Cetol gloss. It's what I like to see on my boats. And the effort is all worth it since the job lasts years and years. I add another coat each year of each type. Never been happier!
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
Still on the Erie Canal
(Maybe heading out this weekend after almost 4 weeks)
demers@sgi.com
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Ed Haley
Canal Closure revisited
Capt Larry:
Ah, yes. I remember that time well. Never did I think that I would be in the same predicament for 3 times as long. Not in my wildest dreams.
Thanks for the kind words. I talked with the NYS Canal Authority this morning and it looks like the Oswego Canal may be opening Saturday morning. We plan to be there when the gates open. It usually takes a day or so to travel the Oswego Canal, the section that has been closed since May 14th. You can follow the history since we've been on the canal at the following link:
http://www.canals.state.ny.us/news/notices/index.html
In one way, I can list all the sailing events I've missed by being stuck on the canal. But in another way, I've already sailed/motored over 400 miles to get to this point. But by Monday, the sails will be bent on again and the new season on Lake Ontario begins.
I've missed reading your posts. You and Jan must have been tweaking DeLaMer for a while.
With warm regards,
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
On the Erie Canal for a bit more
eghaleyNOSPAM@twcny.rr.com
Ah, yes. I remember that time well. Never did I think that I would be in the same predicament for 3 times as long. Not in my wildest dreams.
Thanks for the kind words. I talked with the NYS Canal Authority this morning and it looks like the Oswego Canal may be opening Saturday morning. We plan to be there when the gates open. It usually takes a day or so to travel the Oswego Canal, the section that has been closed since May 14th. You can follow the history since we've been on the canal at the following link:
http://www.canals.state.ny.us/news/notices/index.html
In one way, I can list all the sailing events I've missed by being stuck on the canal. But in another way, I've already sailed/motored over 400 miles to get to this point. But by Monday, the sails will be bent on again and the new season on Lake Ontario begins.
I've missed reading your posts. You and Jan must have been tweaking DeLaMer for a while.
With warm regards,
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
On the Erie Canal for a bit more
eghaleyNOSPAM@twcny.rr.com
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Warren Kaplan
Re: Canal Closure revisited
Ed,
Glad to hear you may be underway again. I'm just curious though. Correct me if I'm wrong but you live in Rome, New York. Mokita is berthed in Kingston, Ontario?? As I look at my trusty map of NY State, Mokita is sure down the road a piece from Rome, New York. How far and how long do you have to travel to get to your marina from home? I take it when you go sailing, you stay the weekend at least. No quick daysailing I suppose. If I'm not "prying" how did you arrive at this arrangement of your boat being in a different country than where you live?
Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, New York
Setsail728@aol.com
Glad to hear you may be underway again. I'm just curious though. Correct me if I'm wrong but you live in Rome, New York. Mokita is berthed in Kingston, Ontario?? As I look at my trusty map of NY State, Mokita is sure down the road a piece from Rome, New York. How far and how long do you have to travel to get to your marina from home? I take it when you go sailing, you stay the weekend at least. No quick daysailing I suppose. If I'm not "prying" how did you arrive at this arrangement of your boat being in a different country than where you live?
Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, New York
Setsail728@aol.com