The Gremlins Climb Aboard!

[Warren Kaplan]

Hi all,
Yesterday, SQN went out for her first sail of the year, with her spanking new mainsail and from her new Home Port of Oyster Bay. The forecast was for wind of about 10-15 in the afternoon but even though it was about 2PM when we let go the mooring, the telltales were hanging straight down. There are plenty of places you can actually sail in Oyster Bay, but to get out to open Long Island Sound is about 5 miles. So, we fired up old reliable, YSM-8, which caught immediately. Off we went. Aboard was Captain "yours truly", my wife Julie, and my youngest daughter who has just completed sailing lessons. The old YSM-8 has never motored that far before (didn't have to in my old sailing area) and did just fine. But she's very noisy and everything aboard, including your teeth, vibrates at higher revs. We got to the Sound and motored around for a while "looking" for wind. None was to be found. So, we started our 6 mile voyage back to the mooring. After about 10 minutes of motoring back to Oyster Bay (OB) we felt a wind filling from the southeast. We also noticed that some of the boats still out on the Sound were actually heeling a bit. So, we put the helm hard over, came about, headed back out and hoisted sail! Ah the pleasures of a new mainsail. She set beautifully.We unfurled the genny and off we went. Then...the gremlins climbed aboard. My new sailor daughter was adjusting this and that to get the most out of our sails. Daddy was duly impressed at the enthusiastic interest of the new crew aboard. My wife decided to get into the spirit of things and unbeknownst to me also decided to fiddle with some lines on the boom. The next thing I knew my daughter was asking me what line that was streaming from the masthead, hanging about 20 feet aft of our stern and 15 feet up from deck level. My wife in her eagerness to participate untied the topping lift from the boom. Oh well, as long as the main is up the topping lift doesn't do anything anyway so I figured I'd retrieve it at the mooring. This was a shakedown cruise and as we sailed around for the next 1.5 hours it appeared to me that the forestay/furlex furler was "bouncing around" a little too much. I had just taken the loos guages to the shrouds a few days earlier and adjusted them so maybe I needed to tweak the stays some more. We furled the genny, not wanting to put any more load on the that part of the rig until it was properly checked out. It was getting on 5 PM and we decided to head for the barn since it was 6 miles dead into the wind to the mooring and I didn't want to use the genny at this time. So we fired up the YSM-8 and took off. We left the main up to keep the boom out of the cockpit. The wind was increasing and there were plenty of whitcaps around. No problem for the CD27 although it we took plenty of spray into the wind. I hadn't put the dodger on yet because it was "windless" when we left and I wanted to see a few things better this shakedown cruise which the dodger usually obscurs. The YSM-8 made slow progress into the wind. Even though the tide was with us the engine labored. I increased revs but never went to full throttle. If I ever needed convincing that the CD27 was underpowered with the YSM-8, especially a 22 year old one which probably doesn't even give "8" at the shaft, this trip proved it. About 20 minutes or so after starting back under power, my daughter said she smelled something burning. Then one of the lights on the engine panel lit up and the audible alarm went off. I shut the engine down and went below. The oil pan below the engine was filled with oil and the engine oil dipstick was bone dry. Mind you a couple of hours earlier when I check it, it was filled. Not good. So here's the situation. No engine. No Jib. No topping lift. Mooring 5 miles or so to windward. At least my VHF was working and Tow Boat US has a boat at my marina in OB. The good news was he came out and got us in about 20 minutes. We didn't budge from our spot. The incoming tide negated the effect of the opposing wind and in the 20 minutes from the time of our call for a tow until he picked us up, our position changed maybe 200 feet. I'm sure glad I have $500 Boat US towing. The tow boat captain was very good and got us back thru crowded waters without a hitch. He said he was unbelievably busy yesterday. First big weekend of the year, all the evils from over the winter show up. Just like the heating and air conditioning repair people go crazy with the first cold snap of the winter or the first heat wave of summer. In any event, I had planned on repowering next year no matter what. I'm not dumping any more money into the YSM-8 so, I'll bite the bullet and do it right now because I realize I'll need the engine alot from now on. My wife is even on board for this. The noise and vibration from the YSM-8 is torture if you have to use it a long time. I think the old engine is now out of its league. I'm sure I could fix it and it would be fine for light duty and short duration motoring. But that's not on my agenda. I'll be on the hard for a while. They told me a week for installation. I hope I can get it done soon. Hope your weekend was better than mine! Thanks for listening.

Warren Kaplan
Engineless in OB



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[Ed Haley]

Warren:
Nice to see you have an eager crew aboard when you're out on SQN. Sounds like a lot of fun in the years ahead. Obviously, mistakes will be made by all of us at one time or another. You seem to be able to take them is stride which is a sign of a good sailor.

Funny how those gremlins like to become active at the worst possible time. Did you find out why the oil leaked into the pan? Oil filter problem?

Hope you're not tied up too long when they install your new engine. Maybe that's a good time to get the summer in-law visit out of the way ... LOL.

Catch ya later,
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
Locked Up on the Erie.



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[Warren Kaplan]

Warren:
Nice to see you have an eager crew aboard when you're out on SQN. Sounds like a lot of fun in the years ahead. Obviously, mistakes will be made by all of us at one time or another. You seem to be able to take them is stride which is a sign of a good sailor.

Funny how those gremlins like to become active at the worst possible time. Did you find out why the oil leaked into the pan? Oil filter problem?

Hope you're not tied up too long when they install your new engine. Maybe that's a good time to get the summer in-law visit out of the way ... LOL.

Catch ya later,
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
Locked Up on the Erie.

Ed,
For some the gremlins take the form of the engine giving up the ghost, and for others its locks on a canal that have been mandated closed for an extended period of time. Either way, it cuts into precious sailing time. Whatever form they take, the gremlins are always hitching a ride just on the other side of the toe rail every time a vessel puts out. We just have to keep them on that side and figure out a way to keep them from climbing aboard.
I didn't figure out what caused the oil leak. By the time we hit the mooring and retrieved the topping lift and put everything else back in order it was late and we all wanted off. Frankly, other than technical curiosity, I really don't care. Perhaps the gremlins in fact did me a favor. They exposed on the very first sail of the year a significant weak spot (aged underpowered YSM-8) for the kind of sailing I intend to do now. The engine wasn't all that important to me in the past, but even though we all grudgingly turn on the iron genny, we do need it to be not only reliable but also up to doing the job in heavy wind, current and sea. I can say the YSM-8 always fired up right away, but I decided last year that repowering was a must as she showed signs of laboring in everything but the calmest conditions. So I'll get it done now and perhaps I can get on with my sailing season plans without having that nagging worry that the engine won't be able to get us back to Oyster Bay when we need it to. The noise and vibration are really too much for extended engine use also. So the decision is made. A new more powerful engine goes in PDQ if possible. Makes no difference if it was a filter or a $5.00 hose.
Say Ed. When do they expect to open those locks?

Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, NY




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[Ed Haley]

Hi, Warren:
I guess there's no one around to chat with on this CD Board but you and me - everyone else is out sailing. I guess the luck of the Irish can be mitigated by the meddling of the gremlins. I sold my Sunfish last week and I can't even use that. However, my O'Day DaySailer goes in tomorrow for my son so maybe we can get on the wind a bit on Memorial Day. Today was a perfect sailing day for Sunfish on Lake Delta (6 sq. mi lake I live on) but I just enjoyed the event from the committee boat. At least I'm on the water. I feel extremely fortunate to have made it to my home town aboard Mokita. Fortuitous might be the word. My wife is so thrilled with the boat she visits Mokita everyday to check on her. In the past, that was unheard of. Maybe the gremlins know what they're doing sometimes! LOL! Word has it that the Oswego Canal may open for next weekend. However, as luck would have it, I have two commitments that may prevent me from leaving right away. However, I'm trying to reschedule them.

I was curious about your oil leak from the standpoint of education. I thought if I knew of a possible source of trouble then maybe I could add that potential item to my checklist. Information is always helpful.

I was looking forward to cruising Oyster Bay this summer. By the charts it looks inviting. Maybe I will yet. I'd like to crew during the CD rendezvous. One of the things I wanted to do early in the season was get my wife into sailing so that she'd enjoy bringing the boat to the Sound and participate in the rendezvous. We've been delayed almost 3 weeks from doing that because of the canal closure. Besides, I don't know if we want to risk being stuck in the canal en route to another destination again.

Wish I could help you out on your choice of engines. I haven't looked into that potential project yet. I was going to install a line control traveller but had to replace my autopilot instead. That's higher on the priority scale since I singlehand a lot.

Here's to better days ahead!

Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
Locked up on the Erie.



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[Will W.]

Hi All
Warren, sorry to hear that the shakedown unraveled a few problems. I took Suzi Q for her first sail of the year today. It was also my first time out with my family ( Wife and Son ). Fortunatly everything went without error as far as my new furler and deck hardware arrangement. Unfortunatly, this was not much of a shake down day. Winds were supposed to be 10-15 knots with 3 ft waves. However, the wind was almost none and waves were less than a foot. I did manage to foul a plug on my outboard coming back to the marina but other than that I had no problems.
I also am thinking of getting a new motor. Fortunatly my 25 only needs an outboard. I have two but they are both pretty old now and reliability for longer cruising is something I want as well.
All in all though Suzi Q looks and handles nice. The new CDI furler worked great, although I did only use my working jib and there was very little wind. Tuesday I will go out again and put up my 150% genoa and see how that works. Also can't wait to add lazy jacks. It was so nice when it was time to take in the jib to just pull a line and be done in seconds. I have never had a furler before and it was a great addition. It will be nice when the main sail is almost as easy to take down. I already have the stuff I need to add the lazy jacks but I will wait, till a day when no wind makes sailing futile, to add them.
Warren, I'm not sure what the problem with your furler was but For what its worth. There was an article in the most recent Sail that said that almost all furler problems are caused by improper installation and user error. I know from reading your posts that you are careful but maybe you missed something. Checking everything over will probably reveal the problem. Good luck and have fun!

Will Wheatley
Suzi Q
CD25
Sailing from Chesapeake Beach, MD

Hi all,
Yesterday, SQN went out for her first sail of the year, with her spanking new mainsail and from her new Home Port of Oyster Bay. The forecast was for wind of about 10-15 in the afternoon but even though it was about 2PM when we let go the mooring, the telltales were hanging straight down. There are plenty of places you can actually sail in Oyster Bay, but to get out to open Long Island Sound is about 5 miles. So, we fired up old reliable, YSM-8, which caught immediately. Off we went. Aboard was Captain "yours truly", my wife Julie, and my youngest daughter who has just completed sailing lessons. The old YSM-8 has never motored that far before (didn't have to in my old sailing area) and did just fine. But she's very noisy and everything aboard, including your teeth, vibrates at higher revs. We got to the Sound and motored around for a while "looking" for wind. None was to be found. So, we started our 6 mile voyage back to the mooring. After about 10 minutes of motoring back to Oyster Bay (OB) we felt a wind filling from the southeast. We also noticed that some of the boats still out on the Sound were actually heeling a bit. So, we put the helm hard over, came about, headed back out and hoisted sail! Ah the pleasures of a new mainsail. She set beautifully.We unfurled the genny and off we went. Then...the gremlins climbed aboard. My new sailor daughter was adjusting this and that to get the most out of our sails. Daddy was duly impressed at the enthusiastic interest of the new crew aboard. My wife decided to get into the spirit of things and unbeknownst to me also decided to fiddle with some lines on the boom. The next thing I knew my daughter was asking me what line that was streaming from the masthead, hanging about 20 feet aft of our stern and 15 feet up from deck level. My wife in her eagerness to participate untied the topping lift from the boom. Oh well, as long as the main is up the topping lift doesn't do anything anyway so I figured I'd retrieve it at the mooring. This was a shakedown cruise and as we sailed around for the next 1.5 hours it appeared to me that the forestay/furlex furler was "bouncing around" a little too much. I had just taken the loos guages to the shrouds a few days earlier and adjusted them so maybe I needed to tweak the stays some more. We furled the genny, not wanting to put any more load on the that part of the rig until it was properly checked out. It was getting on 5 PM and we decided to head for the barn since it was 6 miles dead into the wind to the mooring and I didn't want to use the genny at this time. So we fired up the YSM-8 and took off. We left the main up to keep the boom out of the cockpit. The wind was increasing and there were plenty of whitcaps around. No problem for the CD27 although it we took plenty of spray into the wind. I hadn't put the dodger on yet because it was "windless" when we left and I wanted to see a few things better this shakedown cruise which the dodger usually obscurs. The YSM-8 made slow progress into the wind. Even though the tide was with us the engine labored. I increased revs but never went to full throttle. If I ever needed convincing that the CD27 was underpowered with the YSM-8, especially a 22 year old one which probably doesn't even give "8" at the shaft, this trip proved it. About 20 minutes or so after starting back under power, my daughter said she smelled something burning. Then one of the lights on the engine panel lit up and the audible alarm went off. I shut the engine down and went below. The oil pan below the engine was filled with oil and the engine oil dipstick was bone dry. Mind you a couple of hours earlier when I check it, it was filled. Not good. So here's the situation. No engine. No Jib. No topping lift. Mooring 5 miles or so to windward. At least my VHF was working and Tow Boat US has a boat at my marina in OB. The good news was he came out and got us in about 20 minutes. We didn't budge from our spot. The incoming tide negated the effect of the opposing wind and in the 20 minutes from the time of our call for a tow until he picked us up, our position changed maybe 200 feet. I'm sure glad I have $500 Boat US towing. The tow boat captain was very good and got us back thru crowded waters without a hitch. He said he was unbelievably busy yesterday. First big weekend of the year, all the evils from over the winter show up. Just like the heating and air conditioning repair people go crazy with the first cold snap of the winter or the first heat wave of summer. In any event, I had planned on repowering next year no matter what. I'm not dumping any more money into the YSM-8 so, I'll bite the bullet and do it right now because I realize I'll need the engine alot from now on. My wife is even on board for this. The noise and vibration from the YSM-8 is torture if you have to use it a long time. I think the old engine is now out of its league. I'm sure I could fix it and it would be fine for light duty and short duration motoring. But that's not on my agenda. I'll be on the hard for a while. They told me a week for installation. I hope I can get it done soon. Hope your weekend was better than mine! Thanks for listening.

Warren Kaplan
Engineless in OB

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[Mike Brandt]

Warren,
I'm interested in the cause of your engine failure if you locate it. My father's Cape Dory 27 has the 1 cylinder Yanmar. The boat is currently on shore in Maine, but should be back in the water for a couple months this summer.
Our longest strech under power was 17 hours starting at the Atlantic side Cape May canal, up the Delaware river, and ending in Chesapeake Bay. I know all about the vibration and noise!
Mike

Warren:
Nice to see you have an eager crew aboard when you're out on SQN. Sounds like a lot of fun in the years ahead. Obviously, mistakes will be made by all of us at one time or another. You seem to be able to take them is stride which is a sign of a good sailor.

Funny how those gremlins like to become active at the worst possible time. Did you find out why the oil leaked into the pan? Oil filter problem?

Hope you're not tied up too long when they install your new engine. Maybe that's a good time to get the summer in-law visit out of the way ... LOL.

Catch ya later,
Ed Haley
s/v Mokita
CD330 #1
Locked Up on the Erie.

Ed,
For some the gremlins take the form of the engine giving up the ghost, and for others its locks on a canal that have been mandated closed for an extended period of time. Either way, it cuts into precious sailing time. Whatever form they take, the gremlins are always hitching a ride just on the other side of the toe rail every time a vessel puts out. We just have to keep them on that side and figure out a way to keep them from climbing aboard.
I didn't figure out what caused the oil leak. By the time we hit the mooring and retrieved the topping lift and put everything else back in order it was late and we all wanted off. Frankly, other than technical curiosity, I really don't care. Perhaps the gremlins in fact did me a favor. They exposed on the very first sail of the year a significant weak spot (aged underpowered YSM-8) for the kind of sailing I intend to do now. The engine wasn't all that important to me in the past, but even though we all grudgingly turn on the iron genny, we do need it to be not only reliable but also up to doing the job in heavy wind, current and sea. I can say the YSM-8 always fired up right away, but I decided last year that repowering was a must as she showed signs of laboring in everything but the calmest conditions. So I'll get it done now and perhaps I can get on with my sailing season plans without having that nagging worry that the engine won't be able to get us back to Oyster Bay when we need it to. The noise and vibration are really too much for extended engine use also. So the decision is made. A new more powerful engine goes in PDQ if possible. Makes no difference if it was a filter or a $5.00 hose.
Say Ed. When do they expect to open those locks?

Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, NY

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[Jeff Schmoyer]

Warren,

Keep us posted on the engine re-power. It's something a lot of us CD27er's are contemplating I suspect. Like you, I can't stand the YSM vibration. I'm interested in the tradeoffs you find between engine smoothness vs. cost and vs. ease of fitting into the small engine room of the 27.

Like others who own a YSM8 rock crusher, I'd like to know what caused the oil to leak out. Just for peace of mind. Did it perhaps leak out of the little drain plug on the bottom, or someplace more malevolent, like the cylinder head?

Jeff



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[Warren Kaplan]

Warren,

Keep us posted on the engine re-power. It's something a lot of us CD27er's are contemplating I suspect. Like you, I can't stand the YSM vibration. I'm interested in the tradeoffs you find between engine smoothness vs. cost and vs. ease of fitting into the small engine room of the 27.

Like others who own a YSM8 rock crusher, I'd like to know what caused the oil to leak out. Just for peace of mind. Did it perhaps leak out of the little drain plug on the bottom, or someplace more malevolent, like the cylinder head?

Jeff

I plan on going up to the boat today, if the heavy fog clears, and taking a good survey of the engine compartment. I really didn't back on Saturday when this all happened. I'll see if I can find out what caused the leak. If I can't, I'll have the mechanic who does the repower take a quick look at it. I'll pass the information along when I get it.
By the way...does anyone know any Westerbeke or Volvo dealers on Long Island that do repowering? I know 3 places right now, including one at my marina that are Yanmar dealers. They have Yanmar certified mechanics. This is important to me. First, if I decide on other than a Yanmar, and I'm not suggesting that I will, I need someone to sell it to me AND do the repowering. Second and most important in my view, I need someone reliable and close by to service the engine and provide parts. Lots of people and places around for Yanmars but I'm just having trouble finding the other engines. Anybody have any names?

Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, NY



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[yves feder W1UX]

Warren,

Keep us posted on the engine re-power. It's something a lot of us CD27er's are contemplating I suspect. Like you, I can't stand the YSM vibration. I'm interested in the tradeoffs you find between engine smoothness vs. cost and vs. ease of fitting into the small engine room of the 27.

Like others who own a YSM8 rock crusher, I'd like to know what caused the oil to leak out. Just for peace of mind. Did it perhaps leak out of the little drain plug on the bottom, or someplace more malevolent, like the cylinder head?

Jeff

I plan on going up to the boat today, if the heavy fog clears, and taking a good survey of the engine compartment. I really didn't back on Saturday when this all happened. I'll see if I can find out what caused the leak. If I can't, I'll have the mechanic who does the repower take a quick look at it. I'll pass the information along when I get it.
By the way...does anyone know any Westerbeke or Volvo dealers on Long Island that do repowering? I know 3 places right now, including one at my marina that are Yanmar dealers. They have Yanmar certified mechanics. This is important to me. First, if I decide on other than a Yanmar, and I'm not suggesting that I will, I need someone to sell it to me AND do the repowering. Second and most important in my view, I need someone reliable and close by to service the engine and provide parts. Lots of people and places around for Yanmars but I'm just having trouble finding the other engines. Anybody have any names?

Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, NY

Hi there Warren, Good luck on this great project! I gave it a lot of thought last year after seeing that great installation aboard Bill Goldsmith's beautiful CD27. It should certainly make a difference.

Funny about the vibration comments you and others are making. Could there be that much difference between the YSE (which is what we have) and the YSM? I find the YSE incredibly smooth especially for a one lunger. Not much noise or vibration, really VERY little compared to others I have experienced.

Our 3-blade prop conversion last year made quite a difference thrust-wise. On Friday we powered for a while into some 20-25kt SSW air - making 2.8K into 2 ft seas. (with the 2blade we'd be lucky to make 2.0) and of course we have at least some decent astern capabilities compared to the 2blade.

Anyway why the YSE should be as smooth as a sewing machine compared to the YSM is beyond me. Mounts are stock.

I can tell you my Arpege 30' had a Volvo MD2 which was somewhat noisier and produced more vibration than our YSE. And it had good mounts and a flex coupling. Our Volvo MD2-B (25hp instead of 20) on our Hinckley 36' was definitely smoother but of course the boat was far more massive. We had installed heavy iron bed rails atop the already massive wooden engine bed timbers. She had heavy duty mounts and the Volvo flex coupling.

Definitely it seems that the Westerbekes are pretty quiet, but so was the more modern Volvo (MD7?) aboard a friend's Sabre 28. Maybe it was just the MD2 series that was "clunkier" - and they also had a huge, heavy, massive flywheel.

Nothing like gathering as much data as you can Warren! Good luck!
Yves
"Alphee" CD27 #4 (1977, YSE powered, not YSM:):)



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[Michael Heintz]

Captain Kaplan,

Yikes.... I guess that's what shakedown cruises are for....but....

Oh well, you seemed prepared for that eventuality, so now at least you can get it done early in the season. We want you ready for the rendezvous!!!!!!!

One of these days ...soon... I'll get over to oyster Bay, if I leave early enough, mabe your boss will give you a long lunch, and we'll cruise on Macht Nichts around the bay !!!!!!!!!

Good luck!!!!! There a a number of good mechanics here on this side of LI.... but that would probably be more trouble than it's worth!!!

Keep us posted.

Michael Heintz
Macht Nichts CD 30 MK II
Racing Sloop
Norwalk, CT
NE Fleet Captain

[Warren Kaplan]

Captain Kaplan,

Yikes.... I guess that's what shakedown cruises are for....but....

Oh well, you seemed prepared for that eventuality, so now at least you can get it done early in the season. We want you ready for the rendezvous!!!!!!!

One of these days ...soon... I'll get over to oyster Bay, if I leave early enough, mabe your boss will give you a long lunch, and we'll cruise on Macht Nichts around the bay !!!!!!!!!

Good luck!!!!! There a a number of good mechanics here on this side of LI.... but that would probably be more trouble than it's worth!!!

Keep us posted.

Michael Heintz
Macht Nichts CD 30 MK II
Racing Sloop
Norwalk, CT
NE Fleet Captain

Capt. Heintz,
You're right of course. That's what shakedown cruises are for. It really wasn't the "cruise from hell". Hardly that. My wife made a mistake (harmless one at that). My tuned up rigging, at the mooring, proved it needed a little more tweaking after sailing to windward. Hardly unusual and easily taken care of. The serious development was the engine dropping ALL the oil into the oil pan below. But I already had made inquires into repowering because I new this old YSM8 was flagging. I was just hoping to push it until next season. Better that I found this weak spot now, on the shakedown, than let's say 100 miles from home in the middle of the season. So, I'll have to do the repower now as its senseless to dump more money into the old, failing YSM8. My only concern, after deciding on which engine to repower with, will be if the people who are going to do it say, "Sure we can do it but we are so busy that we can't get to it before July". I'm "interviewing" reputable places now. I see no reason why I shouldn't be at the rendezvous at the end of July. I'll keep everyone posted as to my progress. I'm sure others who are eventually thinking about repowering might get something out of it.

Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, NY



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[Warren Kaplan]

Here is an update for those of you who read about the shananegans that happened on SQN shakedown cruise about 10 days ago. If you remember amongst other things my YSM8 lost all its oil into the pan below the engine which I discovered after the alarms on the engine panel started wailing and then lit up. Some of you were interested in what happened. The mechanic finally got a look at her today and he said that an oil line blew. It just rotted out and failed. I'm not sure which line it was, but I'll find out. He will have a new part either tomorrow or early next week!! If I'm lucky I can get back into the game this weekend or definitely next week! I hate being on the sidelines! So anyone with those old YSMs, take a gander at those oil lines. I'm still going to repower. But now I know I'll be able to take SQN off the mooring and go sailing while the yard and I work out a schedule for doing the repower. I never thought I'd be so happy to hear that I only blew an oil line.
See ya'

Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27 #166
Oyster Bay Harbor, Ny



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[Jeff Funston]

We all have our fingers crossed that no damage was done (bearings and such). Here's to a cheap fix!



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