Apparently the ITT Jabsco City Water Connection device on Parfait has been failing for some time. This was the weekend that the leak became a problem with the pressure pump cycling every few seconds. Fortunately, the leak was onto the cockpit sole, so it was easy to find once we looked in the right area. The check valve wasn't providing full check anymore and replacing the whole unit solved the problem.
Replacement was not easy, the old unit came out in fairly small pieces, but at least they didn't use Marine Tex or 5200.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Another Learning Experience - City Water Connection Devices
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John R.
Re: Another Learning Experience - City Water Connection Devi
I had trouble posting this the first time so if it posts twice I apologize.
Just do away with the check valve altogether and install a dockside water fitting with an integral on/off valve or add a ball valve. End of worrying about the dependability of a check valve.
Just do away with the check valve altogether and install a dockside water fitting with an integral on/off valve or add a ball valve. End of worrying about the dependability of a check valve.
Ken Coit wrote: Apparently the ITT Jabsco City Water Connection device on Parfait has been failing for some time. This was the weekend that the leak became a problem with the pressure pump cycling every few seconds. Fortunately, the leak was onto the cockpit sole, so it was easy to find once we looked in the right area. The check valve wasn't providing full check anymore and replacing the whole unit solved the problem.
Replacement was not easy, the old unit came out in fairly small pieces, but at least they didn't use Marine Tex or 5200.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
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Ken Coit
Problem is.....
I had the same thought and even one that involved just disconnecting it altogether.
Problem is that to legally connect to some city water systems, you must have a check valve so you can't put your water (or whatever) into their system. The installation is done and it works. Even better, I don't have to figure out what to do with the hole in the cockpit; I used it up.
I thought about just doing away with it altogether and leaving the connection panel there; but then I got worried about how to keep someone from filling the boat with city water inadvertently.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Problem is that to legally connect to some city water systems, you must have a check valve so you can't put your water (or whatever) into their system. The installation is done and it works. Even better, I don't have to figure out what to do with the hole in the cockpit; I used it up.
I thought about just doing away with it altogether and leaving the connection panel there; but then I got worried about how to keep someone from filling the boat with city water inadvertently.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
John R. wrote: I had trouble posting this the first time so if it posts twice I apologize.
Just do away with the check valve altogether and install a dockside water fitting with an integral on/off valve or add a ball valve. End of worrying about the dependability of a check valve.
Ken Coit wrote: Apparently the ITT Jabsco City Water Connection device on Parfait has been failing for some time. This was the weekend that the leak became a problem with the pressure pump cycling every few seconds. Fortunately, the leak was onto the cockpit sole, so it was easy to find once we looked in the right area. The check valve wasn't providing full check anymore and replacing the whole unit solved the problem.
Replacement was not easy, the old unit came out in fairly small pieces, but at least they didn't use Marine Tex or 5200.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
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John R.
Re: Problem is.....
Ken,
I agree that some locales probably have that in their code and some marinas may even make an issue of that in their slip contracts .......but; Have you actually come across a marina that boards a boat and does an inspection for a check valve? I sure haven't seen a marina do that. I suspect some marinas in locales with regulations may in fact already have check valves on their potable hook up lines for the very reason you state.
I agree that some locales probably have that in their code and some marinas may even make an issue of that in their slip contracts .......but; Have you actually come across a marina that boards a boat and does an inspection for a check valve? I sure haven't seen a marina do that. I suspect some marinas in locales with regulations may in fact already have check valves on their potable hook up lines for the very reason you state.
Ken Coit wrote: I had the same thought and even one that involved just disconnecting it altogether.
Problem is that to legally connect to some city water systems, you must have a check valve so you can't put your water (or whatever) into their system. The installation is done and it works. Even better, I don't have to figure out what to do with the hole in the cockpit; I used it up.
I thought about just doing away with it altogether and leaving the connection panel there; but then I got worried about how to keep someone from filling the boat with city water inadvertently.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
John R. wrote: I had trouble posting this the first time so if it posts twice I apologize.
Just do away with the check valve altogether and install a dockside water fitting with an integral on/off valve or add a ball valve. End of worrying about the dependability of a check valve.
Ken Coit wrote: Apparently the ITT Jabsco City Water Connection device on Parfait has been failing for some time. This was the weekend that the leak became a problem with the pressure pump cycling every few seconds. Fortunately, the leak was onto the cockpit sole, so it was easy to find once we looked in the right area. The check valve wasn't providing full check anymore and replacing the whole unit solved the problem.
Replacement was not easy, the old unit came out in fairly small pieces, but at least they didn't use Marine Tex or 5200.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
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Ken Coit
Well no, but ...
John,
No, there is no policing at MBYC, so that isn't the issue really. In fact, we don't connect to city water at our marina because it a) would increase the risk of sinking at the dock and b) would not provide us with a pleasant source of drinking water. Instead, we fill the tanks and treat them, refilling when one empties. However, if we were to find ourselves elsewhere in a dock with potable and tasty water, I'd hate to be prevented from using it because I didn't have the pressure reducer or check valve that come with the Jabsco unit.
And speaking of code breakers, last Summer we discovered that the contractor who installed the septic system in the subdivision surrounding the marina failed to install check valves at the street for at least the marina acreage. All our neighbors, and maybe some quite far away, could pump their sewage into our system. It wasn't pretty.
I believe in check valves; it is just too bad they don't work forever.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
No, there is no policing at MBYC, so that isn't the issue really. In fact, we don't connect to city water at our marina because it a) would increase the risk of sinking at the dock and b) would not provide us with a pleasant source of drinking water. Instead, we fill the tanks and treat them, refilling when one empties. However, if we were to find ourselves elsewhere in a dock with potable and tasty water, I'd hate to be prevented from using it because I didn't have the pressure reducer or check valve that come with the Jabsco unit.
And speaking of code breakers, last Summer we discovered that the contractor who installed the septic system in the subdivision surrounding the marina failed to install check valves at the street for at least the marina acreage. All our neighbors, and maybe some quite far away, could pump their sewage into our system. It wasn't pretty.
I believe in check valves; it is just too bad they don't work forever.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
John R. wrote: Ken,
I agree that some locales probably have that in their code and some marinas may even make an issue of that in their slip contracts .......but; Have you actually come across a marina that boards a boat and does an inspection for a check valve? I sure haven't seen a marina do that. I suspect some marinas in locales with regulations may in fact already have check valves on their potable hook up lines for the very reason you state.
Ken Coit wrote: I had the same thought and even one that involved just disconnecting it altogether.
Problem is that to legally connect to some city water systems, you must have a check valve so you can't put your water (or whatever) into their system. The installation is done and it works. Even better, I don't have to figure out what to do with the hole in the cockpit; I used it up.
I thought about just doing away with it altogether and leaving the connection panel there; but then I got worried about how to keep someone from filling the boat with city water inadvertently.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
John R. wrote: I had trouble posting this the first time so if it posts twice I apologize.
Just do away with the check valve altogether and install a dockside water fitting with an integral on/off valve or add a ball valve. End of worrying about the dependability of a check valve.
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com