Going from CD 30 to CD 25D

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K Hill

Going from CD 30 to CD 25D

Post by K Hill »

Hi,

I am still considering going from my cd 30 to a smaller CD possibly a cd25D because of more flexibility offered by the possibility of trailering with the smaller vessel. I have never been on a 25D and I was wondering if it is worth the sacrifice. Or would I be sorry for
giving up the extra size and room of the CD30? Just curious what other CD owners might think.

Thanks K. Hill



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John K.

Re: Going from CD 30 to CD 25D

Post by John K. »

I don't know if you will miss the size of the larger boat or not, but having to set the boat up every time you sail and deal with the hassle of the launch ramp will not be fun. I've owned several trailered boats smaller than a 25D and I found that trailering becomes such a chore in such a short amount of time, I didn't go out very often.
Bill

Re: Going from CD 30 to CD 25D

Post by Bill »

Hello

While I would agree with the previous poster, it certainly would add a great deminision (sp) to inland sailing. I just wouldnt want to do it every weekend or month for that matter. Once or twice a year for a month or so (maybe 2 or 3) would be grand.....

BTW, I have sailed both boats and yes there is a world of difference, but te 25D can be made into a wonderful couples boat.


Fair Winds and the offer is there when ever you want it.


Bill
K Hill wrote: Hi,

I am still considering going from my cd 30 to a smaller CD possibly a cd25D because of more flexibility offered by the possibility of trailering with the smaller vessel. I have never been on a 25D and I was wondering if it is worth the sacrifice. Or would I be sorry for
giving up the extra size and room of the CD30? Just curious what other CD owners might think.

Thanks K. Hill


cd25d@rhapsodysails.com
Mike Wankum

25d-Not a good "Trailer Sailor"

Post by Mike Wankum »

Dear K:
I've often heard people extolling the virtues of the 25d as a trailer sailor. As the owner of a 25d, I have to tell you, it's not a good idea. It's a big boat. 2 1/2 tons! To haul it around you'll need a beefy trailer. You'll also need a big v-8 diesel if you want to drag it more than a few miles. You'll spend half the day setting it up, and even though it's shoal draft, the launching ramp should be a consideration.
Don't get me wrong, the 25d is a wonderful boat. I searched a long time before I bought "Wakoda", and I love it. However, I let the boat haulers take care of moving it.
If you do want a trailer sailer, I enjoyed the Catalina 22 I owned for three years. It's not the boat I would want to be caught in a blow with, but it is light and trailerable, and two people can set it up in a half hour. And it's inexpensive, so you can keep the 30 and and have a road boat. (Stay away from anything water balasted.)
25d are also getting harder to find. I've noticed the prices going up the last two years. Obviously others are finding the roomy 25 footer to be a lot of boat. I've spent time on a 30. It was nice, but I felt the layout of the 25d was more open and a had a much bigger boat feel. It's especially nice for 2 people.
Good luck in your search.
Mike



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Bill

I agree completely

Post by Bill »

A 25D "IS NOT" a weekend to weekend trailer sailor....However, for once or twice a year excursions....What a wonderful boat. Forget the ramps...Use a lift....

People use the Nor'Sea 27 as a trailer sailor as well as the Flicka and others.... You just dont trailer them every weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MTCW

Bill
Captain Commanding
S/V Rhapsody (he Original)
CD25D #148
Oklahoma Contingetn of the NE Fleet

Mike Wankum wrote: Dear K:
I've often heard people extolling the virtues of the 25d as a trailer sailor. As the owner of a 25d, I have to tell you, it's not a good idea. It's a big boat. 2 1/2 tons! To haul it around you'll need a beefy trailer. You'll also need a big v-8 diesel if you want to drag it more than a few miles. You'll spend half the day setting it up, and even though it's shoal draft, the launching ramp should be a consideration.
Don't get me wrong, the 25d is a wonderful boat. I searched a long time before I bought "Wakoda", and I love it. However, I let the boat haulers take care of moving it.
If you do want a trailer sailer, I enjoyed the Catalina 22 I owned for three years. It's not the boat I would want to be caught in a blow with, but it is light and trailerable, and two people can set it up in a half hour. And it's inexpensive, so you can keep the 30 and and have a road boat. (Stay away from anything water balasted.)
25d are also getting harder to find. I've noticed the prices going up the last two years. Obviously others are finding the roomy 25 footer to be a lot of boat. I've spent time on a 30. It was nice, but I felt the layout of the 25d was more open and a had a much bigger boat feel. It's especially nice for 2 people.
Good luck in your search.
Mike
Jerry

Re: Going from CD 30 to CD 25D

Post by Jerry »

K Hill wrote: Hi,

I am still considering going from my cd 30 to a smaller CD possibly a cd25D because of more flexibility offered by the possibility of trailering with the smaller vessel. I have never been on a 25D and I was wondering if it is worth the sacrifice. Or would I be sorry for
giving up the extra size and room of the CD30? Just curious what other CD owners might think.

Thanks K. Hill
We agree it is not something that we would want to do every weekend, however if you want to sail places like the Chesapeake Bay, Florida to the Bahamas,Maine to Nova Scotia,Sea of Cortes to the Baja, Wa. State to Desolation Sound on your vacation in your own boat then consider it.
If you do your own work then it can sit at your house on the trailer for your convenience.
If a half a day set up for launch or retreval is to much for these capabilities, then don't consider it. Launch by ramp or travel lift are both options. Fot long hauls we believe that electric brakes are a must. Water will not affect the electric brakes only the bearings.
We thought it was worth it.Former owners of a CD25D.



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Boyd

Re: Going from CD 30 to CD 25D

Post by Boyd »

Thomas:

I used to trailer-sail a Hunter 23. Its a 2000# centerboard boat.

What a rash...... very scarry to launch. Even harder to retreve. Boat ramps are designed for shallow draft boats and not sailboats. Had to have someone tie a line to my front bumper inorder to get it out of the water a couple of times.... not a lack of hp... a lack of traction on the wet slimey ramp.

Best day of my life was when I graduated to a boat that stays in the water all the time. Sure costs more but much more enjoyable. Keep your 30....

Boyd


Hi,
K Hill wrote: I am still considering going from my cd 30 to a smaller CD possibly a cd25D because of more flexibility offered by the possibility of trailering with the smaller vessel. I have never been on a 25D and I was wondering if it is worth the sacrifice. Or would I be sorry for
giving up the extra size and room of the CD30? Just curious what other CD owners might think.

Thanks K. Hill


Tern30@aol.com
Clay Stalker

Re: Going from CD 30 to CD 25D

Post by Clay Stalker »

K Hill wrote: Hi,

I am still considering going from my cd 30 to a smaller CD possibly a cd25D because of more flexibility offered by the possibility of trailering with the smaller vessel. I have never been on a 25D and I was wondering if it is worth the sacrifice. Or would I be sorry for
giving up the extra size and room of the CD30? Just curious what other CD owners might think.

Thanks K. Hill
Hi:

Used to trailer sail a Compac 19...a big pain in the a---!! Am now very glad to have a boat that stays in the water on a mooring. However, trailer-sailing is a definate lifestyle with some serious followers...there is a whole web-site and message board about this. I wouldn't choose a CD25D for it, though. Many other boats that would be easier and would do the same thing. I would seek recommendations on that web-site....should be tons of opinions and some real good info..these folks are pros. The 25D is a small, rugged cruiser that would take a tank to move about the highway safely. FWIW.

Clay Stalker



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Marc

Re: Going from CD 30 to CD 25D...Electric Brake

Post by Marc »

...Water will not affect the electric brakes only the bearings.

I just bought a trailer with electric brakes and i wonder why the water will not affect the brakes. I was already worry with this, so if somebody could answer, i will appreciate-it.

Marc
Jerry wrote:
K Hill wrote: Hi,

I am still considering going from my cd 30 to a smaller CD possibly a cd25D because of more flexibility offered by the possibility of trailering with the smaller vessel. I have never been on a 25D and I was wondering if it is worth the sacrifice. Or would I be sorry for
giving up the extra size and room of the CD30? Just curious what other CD owners might think.

Thanks K. Hill
We agree it is not something that we would want to do every weekend, however if you want to sail places like the Chesapeake Bay, Florida to the Bahamas,Maine to Nova Scotia,Sea of Cortes to the Baja, Wa. State to Desolation Sound on your vacation in your own boat then consider it.
If you do your own work then it can sit at your house on the trailer for your convenience.
If a half a day set up for launch or retreval is to much for these capabilities, then don't consider it. Launch by ramp or travel lift are both options. Fot long hauls we believe that electric brakes are a must. Water will not affect the electric brakes only the bearings.
We thought it was worth it.Former owners of a CD25D.


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Jerry

Re: Going from CD 30 to CD 25D...Electric Brake

Post by Jerry »

Marc wrote: ...Water will not affect the electric brakes only the bearings.

I just bought a trailer with electric brakes and i wonder why the water will not affect the brakes. I was already worry with this, so if somebody could answer, i will appreciate-it.

Marc
The magnets that expand the brake shoes against the brake drums are sealed units. Disconnect the the brake and light connector between the tow vechicle and the trailer before the trailer goes into the water.
Marc wrote:
Jerry wrote:
K Hill wrote: Hi,

I am still considering going from my cd 30 to a smaller CD possibly a cd25D because of more flexibility offered by the possibility of trailering with the smaller vessel. I have never been on a 25D and I was wondering if it is worth the sacrifice. Or would I be sorry for
giving up the extra size and room of the CD30? Just curious what other CD owners might think.

Thanks K. Hill
We agree it is not something that we would want to do every weekend, however if you want to sail places like the Chesapeake Bay, Florida to the Bahamas,Maine to Nova Scotia,Sea of Cortes to the Baja, Wa. State to Desolation Sound on your vacation in your own boat then consider it.
If you do your own work then it can sit at your house on the trailer for your convenience.
If a half a day set up for launch or retreval is to much for these capabilities, then don't consider it. Launch by ramp or travel lift are both options. Fot long hauls we believe that electric brakes are a must. Water will not affect the electric brakes only the bearings.
We thought it was worth it.Former owners of a CD25D.
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