I've found 4 CD25s for sale ranging from 1974-1979. Prior to a professional survey, do you know of any blatent defects or recurring problems with these boats that I should look for to narrow the field?
smaccready@hotmail.com
Any known CD25 problems to watch for?
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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Jim Stull
Re: Any known CD25 problems to watch for?
Hi Scott
Check for gate valves on the thru hulls. If so, these should be changed out.
Sea hood not securely fastened down. (Ours came off @ 55 mph on the interstate!)
Holding tank a small 4 gal. tank that recycles the effluent! (Yuk)
What kind of engine. (We put in a 4 stroke, 8hp Honda and have been quite pleased with it.)
Leaky portlites.
Check to see if the turnbuckles on the stays & shrouds are "frozen".
A CQR anchor is always nice.
We did a total, hull up, rebuild of a CD25 5 years ago and found the boat to be extremly solidly built.
jtstull@earthlink.net
Check for gate valves on the thru hulls. If so, these should be changed out.
Sea hood not securely fastened down. (Ours came off @ 55 mph on the interstate!)
Holding tank a small 4 gal. tank that recycles the effluent! (Yuk)
What kind of engine. (We put in a 4 stroke, 8hp Honda and have been quite pleased with it.)
Leaky portlites.
Check to see if the turnbuckles on the stays & shrouds are "frozen".
A CQR anchor is always nice.
We did a total, hull up, rebuild of a CD25 5 years ago and found the boat to be extremly solidly built.
jtstull@earthlink.net
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Joel
Re: Any known CD25 problems to watch for?
Look for any mushy spots on the deck or cockpit sole, especially around where cleats, chainplates, or any other fittings are attached. These would be signs of core delamination or worse.
Joel
s/y Pokey II
Ty #549
Bayside, NY
Joel
s/y Pokey II
Ty #549
Bayside, NY
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Will W.
Re: Any known CD25 problems to watch for?
One thing to keep in mind here is that from 74 to 79 there were some notable differences. The 79-81 years had bronze opening ports and those boats are more expensive because of that I think. But that is not the only differences. Have you visited Sovereign's web site. John ring has some of the differences outlined on his site. You can find a link to his site on a responce he gave on the board yesterday.
As far as what to look for? Definatly check for soft spots. The cockpit sole tends to be one area that needs repair on the CD's, so check that good. I own a 75 CD25 and she is a solid boat but I did have to fix the cockpit sole this year. Also, my boat came to me pretty much the way it was new ( no upgrades ). If the same is true for the boats you are looking at you may want or need to replace the wiring and eihter rebuild or replace the panel. You will want to add an anchor light as well and run the VHF antennae through the mast. If you find a boat that has been upgraded it is probably worth the extra cost. You can go the doit yourself route and still spend more than you want to fixing and upgrading. So saving money up front probably won't matter if you need 2-3,000 dollars of upgrading in the next couple of years, plus slip fees etc. But it is no surprise that boats are expences not investments.
One other thing that can be an issue is the wood bulkhead that separates the cabin from the cockpit lockers. You want to make sure the panel in there is solid not rotting or disintegrating. Most things would be covered in a survey, but if you are going it alone I would also want the current owner to sail me around for an hour or so. Watching the boat in use could be helpful in determining its quality. However, watching the current owner go about his business may tell you more about how the boat has been cared for than anything else.
Happy Hunting
Will Wheatley
Suzi Q
CD25
willwheatley@starpower.net
As far as what to look for? Definatly check for soft spots. The cockpit sole tends to be one area that needs repair on the CD's, so check that good. I own a 75 CD25 and she is a solid boat but I did have to fix the cockpit sole this year. Also, my boat came to me pretty much the way it was new ( no upgrades ). If the same is true for the boats you are looking at you may want or need to replace the wiring and eihter rebuild or replace the panel. You will want to add an anchor light as well and run the VHF antennae through the mast. If you find a boat that has been upgraded it is probably worth the extra cost. You can go the doit yourself route and still spend more than you want to fixing and upgrading. So saving money up front probably won't matter if you need 2-3,000 dollars of upgrading in the next couple of years, plus slip fees etc. But it is no surprise that boats are expences not investments.
One other thing that can be an issue is the wood bulkhead that separates the cabin from the cockpit lockers. You want to make sure the panel in there is solid not rotting or disintegrating. Most things would be covered in a survey, but if you are going it alone I would also want the current owner to sail me around for an hour or so. Watching the boat in use could be helpful in determining its quality. However, watching the current owner go about his business may tell you more about how the boat has been cared for than anything else.
Happy Hunting
Will Wheatley
Suzi Q
CD25
Scott MacCready wrote: I've found 4 CD25s for sale ranging from 1974-1979. Prior to a professional survey, do you know of any blatent defects or recurring problems with these boats that I should look for to narrow the field?
willwheatley@starpower.net
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Tom
Re: Any known CD25 problems to watch for?
We bought a 1976 CD25 and like the boat very much. One area we had an issue with and others have noted is the port cabin bulkhead can come loose from the liner. This is the bulkhead between the head and main cabin. The screws can shear or rip out of the liner and the bulkhead gets pushed towards the centerline of the boat. Check the gap between the liner and bulkhead.Scott MacCready wrote: I've found 4 CD25s for sale ranging from 1974-1979. Prior to a professional survey, do you know of any blatent defects or recurring problems with these boats that I should look for to narrow the field?
Tom
tomb5050@aol.com
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Jim
Re: Any known CD25 problems to watch for?
I would concur with all that has already been written. I am re-coring my cockpit floor now. I would add that I thought my bunks were in OK shape when I bought the boat. Upon closer inspection of the seams the bunks were shot and not worth repairing. So I replaced all of them. Worth every penny but not expected.
jmyers@styluscentral.com
jmyers@styluscentral.com
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michael phillips
Re: Any known CD25 problems to watch for?
Something no one has mentioned is the transom mount. When I bought
Brigitta, you could wiggle the motor all over the place. There was
only angle brackets on one side and they were quite small. I had the
wood replaced with starboard, increased the bracket size and used four
of them. The transom is quite solid now - especially since I retired
the 9.9 Evinrude and bought a 6hp 4-stroke Nissan. Since I keep the
boat in the water year round and just off the Gulf of Mexico, I wanted
a motor that was easy to get in and out of the well, when needed. Most
of the time I just sail in & out of the marina and leave the motor on
cabin sole.
-michael
nakedsailor@Brigitta.org
Brigitta, you could wiggle the motor all over the place. There was
only angle brackets on one side and they were quite small. I had the
wood replaced with starboard, increased the bracket size and used four
of them. The transom is quite solid now - especially since I retired
the 9.9 Evinrude and bought a 6hp 4-stroke Nissan. Since I keep the
boat in the water year round and just off the Gulf of Mexico, I wanted
a motor that was easy to get in and out of the well, when needed. Most
of the time I just sail in & out of the marina and leave the motor on
cabin sole.
-michael
nakedsailor@Brigitta.org