Frustrated about varnish, uncertain how the other products will look and hold up (though I've read the recent posts on teak finishes), I'd be interested to know if anyone uses oil on exterior teak. If so, what is the maintenance like?
don@metznik.com
Does anyone use oil on exterior teak anymore?
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john
Re: Does anyone use oil on exterior teak anymore?
Some of us old folks do. If you let it go too long it's much easier to get it back into shape that if you let varnish, etc go. It looks great too.DON METZNIK wrote: Frustrated about varnish, uncertain how the other products will look and hold up (though I've read the recent posts on teak finishes), I'd be interested to know if anyone uses oil on exterior teak. If so, what is the maintenance like?
John CD31 #18
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yves feder W1UX
Re: Does anyone use oil on exterior teak anymore?
I do, Don. (another old timerDON METZNIK wrote: Frustrated about varnish, uncertain how the other products will look and hold up (though I've read the recent posts on teak finishes), I'd be interested to know if anyone uses oil on exterior teak. If so, what is the maintenance like?
- Basically I'd rather sail than be compulsive about varnish or varnish-like exterior finishes. Had plenty of that with my earlier boats! The teak rails, coamings, etc. on our CD27 look very nice with 2-3X/season oiling. Keeps the wood decent. Many of our cruising friends just let their teak go to "silver"! The appearance is actually quite attractive - and zero maintenance. I have to admit the cetol/varnish approaches are very beautiful and I do admire them, but personally I'd rather sail and have a well found sailing vessel rather than a "yar yacht" :)Best,
Yves
Machinist/Steward/Deck Ape/Wireless Operator/Navigator/Helmsperson
S/V "Alphee" CD27 #4 (1977)
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len
Re: Does anyone use oil on exterior teak anymore?
don
i prefer oil - it has to be renewed during the middle of the season once or sometimes twice - if it gets really terrible, some sanding and re-oiling on a day with too little wind isn't a bad way to spend boat time - i've used watco's and some others, doesn't seem to matter much - you do have to be careful not to slop it on the fiberglass, it will stain
len
md.frel@nwh.org
i prefer oil - it has to be renewed during the middle of the season once or sometimes twice - if it gets really terrible, some sanding and re-oiling on a day with too little wind isn't a bad way to spend boat time - i've used watco's and some others, doesn't seem to matter much - you do have to be careful not to slop it on the fiberglass, it will stain
len
md.frel@nwh.org
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Larry DeMers
Re: Does anyone use oil on exterior teak anymore?
Some accuse me of being an old timer also..guys, try cetol. The up keep that Yves is worried about is basicly 3 hrs. once a year..for maintenance. If you need to take the old finish off first, or prepare the wood before the finish coat, then of course there will some time needed for that. I can tell you the exact procedure for refinishing a cetol'd CD30, that has no abrasions, or problems that would require color matching or whatever. In other words..she needs a top coat.
I wash the wood with warm soap water, rinse, dry, then rub down once with a scotchbrite pad, to take the gloss off, and provide a bite for the cetol. Run the wood over with a tack rag. Grab a foam brush, apply the cetol gloss finish in one smooth sweeping movement. Reload and continue. We complete the rub rails, inside and outside surfaces in perhaps 45 minutes. Note I did not use masking tape. I use a flexible metal hand held paint masking device. They sell them in the hardware stores, and you use them around windows when painting. They run about $1.50. This device is effective on straight surfaces. Curved surfaces need to be taped.
For the handrails and eyebrows, one of us cleans, the other one dries, then the first person tapes in a circular motion around the boat deck, while the second person follows with the cetol, foam brush and paint masking device. This takes maybe an hour at most.
For the cockpit and companionway it is the same procedure. Larger areas go faster even, and the broad piece of teak coaming will be your showpiece..as will be the companionway. You may even get offers for your boat based on looks alone (we did in our 2nd year).
Up here in NW Wisc. (Apostle Islands of Lake Superior), this finish will stay brite for the entire year. I have gone two years before overcoating, and this proved to be too long. So we do it once a year during prelaunch fooling around. You guys that don't have this winter stuff to deal with are lucky. We just got up to the boat this past weekend for the first time in 5 months. We will be up however, for the next 33 weeekends.
SO give that cetol a try. Follow the discussions that we all had earlier. A tad of work to get it on nice and proper..then relatively no work to keep it up and look far better than oil..which I switched from in 1992. One headsup: That oil finish you have been puttin on has given the wood a nice patina..try to preserve it if it is not too dark and grain obscuring. The cetol will work wonderfully with that patina. I wish I could show you folks that use oil how our cockpit looks at sunset..I bet we have had 50 people comment..even from a passing boat.
Cheers!
Larry DeMers -and no I don't sell cetol for a living! ;^)
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior
demers@sgi.com
I wash the wood with warm soap water, rinse, dry, then rub down once with a scotchbrite pad, to take the gloss off, and provide a bite for the cetol. Run the wood over with a tack rag. Grab a foam brush, apply the cetol gloss finish in one smooth sweeping movement. Reload and continue. We complete the rub rails, inside and outside surfaces in perhaps 45 minutes. Note I did not use masking tape. I use a flexible metal hand held paint masking device. They sell them in the hardware stores, and you use them around windows when painting. They run about $1.50. This device is effective on straight surfaces. Curved surfaces need to be taped.
For the handrails and eyebrows, one of us cleans, the other one dries, then the first person tapes in a circular motion around the boat deck, while the second person follows with the cetol, foam brush and paint masking device. This takes maybe an hour at most.
For the cockpit and companionway it is the same procedure. Larger areas go faster even, and the broad piece of teak coaming will be your showpiece..as will be the companionway. You may even get offers for your boat based on looks alone (we did in our 2nd year).
Up here in NW Wisc. (Apostle Islands of Lake Superior), this finish will stay brite for the entire year. I have gone two years before overcoating, and this proved to be too long. So we do it once a year during prelaunch fooling around. You guys that don't have this winter stuff to deal with are lucky. We just got up to the boat this past weekend for the first time in 5 months. We will be up however, for the next 33 weeekends.
SO give that cetol a try. Follow the discussions that we all had earlier. A tad of work to get it on nice and proper..then relatively no work to keep it up and look far better than oil..which I switched from in 1992. One headsup: That oil finish you have been puttin on has given the wood a nice patina..try to preserve it if it is not too dark and grain obscuring. The cetol will work wonderfully with that patina. I wish I could show you folks that use oil how our cockpit looks at sunset..I bet we have had 50 people comment..even from a passing boat.
Cheers!
Larry DeMers -and no I don't sell cetol for a living! ;^)
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior
DON METZNIK wrote: Frustrated about varnish, uncertain how the other products will look and hold up (though I've read the recent posts on teak finishes), I'd be interested to know if anyone uses oil on exterior teak. If so, what is the maintenance like?
demers@sgi.com
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yves feder W1UX
Re: Does anyone use oil on exterior teak anymore?
Larry, I agree with you the Cetol finish is absolutely gorgeous! But you read me wrong..... I'm not "worried" about the work involved, just that I spent years doing spanking gorgeous bright finishes on prior boats - including spruce spars on the Hinckley yawl, sooooooooo...... at this point I don't worry about it, just make other choices, that's all
Yves (PS I don't sell teak oil!!:):)
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Yves (PS I don't sell teak oil!!:):)
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Bob Miller
Re: Does anyone use oil on exterior teak anymore?
Try Semco...it does not have to be taken down like Cetol and lasts a lot longer than oil. I use half of the natural and half of the Gold, mixed together...it lasts all season. I get lots of compliments about the way it looks. And come the spring, I clean it up with a little bit of bleach and hand dishwashing soap and it looks great. Let it dry and put on 1 coat and you're done! Just a thought...Bob Miller
millerfam5050@worldnet.att/net
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: I did last year...never again!!!!
Don,
I completely cleaned, sanded and oiled all teak on Hanalei last year! Ended up oiling her three times during the season. She just went in last Friday and the teak is all GREY! She'll not get oil again, it is Armada for sure. I've seen other CDs with Armada applied and it looks great. By looks alone, I'd recommend it. FWIW....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
I completely cleaned, sanded and oiled all teak on Hanalei last year! Ended up oiling her three times during the season. She just went in last Friday and the teak is all GREY! She'll not get oil again, it is Armada for sure. I've seen other CDs with Armada applied and it looks great. By looks alone, I'd recommend it. FWIW....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei