Windlass
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Windlass
Do any of you 36'ers know if I can install a vertical windlass on my bow sprit, right forward of the staysail boom? I will check with Simpson Lawrence tomorrow but thought I would ask the board first. My concern is the thickness of the sprit and the deck for hooking the two elements together. Thanks.
Woody
Woody
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Woody:
I too am installing a vertical (Maxwell Freedom 800) on my CD36 this spring. I explored a similar installation scenario and came up tentatively rejecting it due to the uncertainty of what I had to drill through in the bowsprit. I would hate to run into a stainless steel tie rod. The Maxwell requires two 4 inch diameter holes to be cut.
What are your reasons for wanting to mount it there?
I did run into a picture of a vertical mounted aft of the staysail boom mount on a teak platform that replaces the cleat (which was moved forward). It looked good to me but I could still go the other way. Let me know what you come up with.
John Danicic
CD 36 Mariah - Hull #124
Lake Superior
I too am installing a vertical (Maxwell Freedom 800) on my CD36 this spring. I explored a similar installation scenario and came up tentatively rejecting it due to the uncertainty of what I had to drill through in the bowsprit. I would hate to run into a stainless steel tie rod. The Maxwell requires two 4 inch diameter holes to be cut.
What are your reasons for wanting to mount it there?
I did run into a picture of a vertical mounted aft of the staysail boom mount on a teak platform that replaces the cleat (which was moved forward). It looked good to me but I could still go the other way. Let me know what you come up with.
John Danicic
CD 36 Mariah - Hull #124
Lake Superior
I am installing a vertical windlass in a couple weeks, I ended up choosing my positioning based on other posts on this board. Moving the starboard bow cleat forward and installing the windlass there.
Went with the lofrans project 1000 windlass.
Went with the lofrans project 1000 windlass.
Russell
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Woody,
It looks to me that SL gives you either 3" or 3-1/8" depending on which windlass series you install. I can't tell you how thick the deck and bowsprit are, but I can take some measurements the next time we see Parfait if that would be helpful.
Woody,
It looks to me that SL gives you either 3" or 3-1/8" depending on which windlass series you install. I can't tell you how thick the deck and bowsprit are, but I can take some measurements the next time we see Parfait if that would be helpful.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/36 #84
Parfait
Raleigh, NC
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/36 #84
Parfait
Raleigh, NC
Also wanted to point out the Lofrans project 1000 comes with an extra deck clearance model which will work on over 4" of thickness, such as through the bowsprit. I am getting this option since I am putting a 2" teak pad under the windlass so the chain will be level with the bowsprit.
Russell
s/v (yet to be named) Tayana 42CC
s/v Lady Pauline Cape Dory 36 #117 (for sale)
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Woody,
Is THAT what does it? I am going to change my birthdate....Won't mom be surprised! John Vigor, is there a ceremony I can perform to ensure a safe trip to another sign?
I see a trip to the boat about a week from now; today, I have to admit, we are holed up waiting the for the nasty weather to slide by and smack DC with a foot of snow. I think it will only be rain here, a bit warmer than it takes to put Raleigh in absolute chaos.
I ought to be able to measure the deck thickness at the hawse pipes without any trouble. I'll check to see if it looks the same at the cleats, but I don't plan to pull a bolt. Will that work for you?
Is THAT what does it? I am going to change my birthdate....Won't mom be surprised! John Vigor, is there a ceremony I can perform to ensure a safe trip to another sign?
I see a trip to the boat about a week from now; today, I have to admit, we are holed up waiting the for the nasty weather to slide by and smack DC with a foot of snow. I think it will only be rain here, a bit warmer than it takes to put Raleigh in absolute chaos.
I ought to be able to measure the deck thickness at the hawse pipes without any trouble. I'll check to see if it looks the same at the cleats, but I don't plan to pull a bolt. Will that work for you?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/36 #84
Parfait
Raleigh, NC
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/36 #84
Parfait
Raleigh, NC
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deck thickness
Woody and Ken:
I looked in my windlass installation project records and found that the deck is 1/4 inch thick at the hawse pipes and the bow sprit is 2 inches thick.
John Danicic
CD 36 - Mariah - #124
Lake Superior
I looked in my windlass installation project records and found that the deck is 1/4 inch thick at the hawse pipes and the bow sprit is 2 inches thick.
John Danicic
CD 36 - Mariah - #124
Lake Superior
Re: deck thickness
Wow, the deck is only 1/4" thick there? Is it not cored in that area? This suprises me.John Danicic wrote:Woody and Ken:
I looked in my windlass installation project records and found that the deck is 1/4 inch thick at the hawse pipes and the bow sprit is 2 inches thick.
John Danicic
CD 36 - Mariah - #124
Lake Superior
Russell
s/v (yet to be named) Tayana 42CC
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CD/36 deck thickness
It occurs to me that I ought to be able to measure the thickness through the bowsprit since Parfait already has a manual windlass and hawse pipe mounted there. Duh!
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/36 #84
Parfait
Raleigh, NC
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/36 #84
Parfait
Raleigh, NC
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Re: deck thickness
On Ariel, a '79 CD36, the deck is approximately 1" - 1 1/2" thick at the hawse pipe - factory location. Interesting.John Danicic wrote:Woody and Ken:
I looked in my windlass installation project records and found that the deck is 1/4 inch thick at the hawse pipes and the bow sprit is 2 inches thick.
John Danicic
CD 36 - Mariah - #124
Lake Superior
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I screwed up!
I screwed up, misread my chicken scratching and after a review, discovered that the at the deck is 3/8 inch thick at the hawse pipe. Solid fiberglass no core. Still much thinner then Ariels. The deck seems strong and doesn't flex but Mariah does have a lot of crazing cracks. I am going to install a 1/2 inch backing plate when I mount our windlass.
John Danicic
CD 36 - Mariah - #124
Lake Superior
[Woody and Ken:
I looked in my windlass installation project records and found that the deck is 1/4 inch thick at the hawse pipes and the bow sprit is 2 inches thick.
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John Danicic
CD 36 - Mariah - #124
Lake Superior
[Woody and Ken:
I looked in my windlass installation project records and found that the deck is 1/4 inch thick at the hawse pipes and the bow sprit is 2 inches thick.
][/quote]
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Deck thickness
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CD/36 Deck Thickness
I'll be seeing Parfait next weekend. I'll put the rule on her deck and report back.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/36 #84
Parfait
Raleigh, NC
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/36 #84
Parfait
Raleigh, NC