Typhoon Angle of point on a beat
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Re: Typhoon Angle of point on a beat
Before I switched to a roller furler on my typhoon I could tack about 100 degrees in 5 knots of wind with the working jib ( I still have it in case I wanted to do some heavy weather fall sailing but it is just too easy to use the roller furler). Then I purchased some used sails (140 % genoa and main) and in 8-10 knots of wind I struggle to tack on 120 degrees. One of the problems is that the genoa car cannot be moved any farther forward (unless I relocate the genny tracks on the toerail). With my C&C I can tack on 88-90 degrees but that boat has most of the bells and whistles - which I have resisted to do with the Ty the outboard sheeting also loses some pointing ability for rig tension and the lack of a mainsheet traveler also loses some pointing ability), be careful that you do not compress the deck - install a compression post to be safe. Sails that are led to outboard tracks are already losing 10 or so degrees of pointing ability so that is one area for improvement. HOWEVER, the Typhoon does best on a reach based on its design and lineage - so go fast and enjoy the boat for what it is! I really like setting the boat up so she sails herself with nary a touch on the tiller while I take photos and have an occasional traditional nautical beverage!
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Re: Typhoon Angle of point on a beat
DV, I have sorted through your post and it looks like your windward performance is about the same as what I got, maybe a little better (100 vs 105 degrees with the working jib vs 105% and 120 vs 130 degrees with the 140% vs 155%). As I said in my previous posts I am resigned to where I am as good enough and I am just enjoying the Salty Dog.
BTW I failed to mention previously that my (small amount of) weather helm may be the result of a slightly over sized mainsail. My boat was built in 1980/81 and best I can figure there was a change in the mast length at that time. I know this because the sail I now own was made with a "P" = 22'. To the sail makers surprise when we hoisted the sail the luff was about 2' longer than would fit my boat, "P" = 20'. I'm sure he did not rework the entire leech of the sail he just adjusted the upper portion of the roach and the top two batten lengths. I have tried to compensate for this by a very slight forward lean to the mast.
Your points about the traveler and the out board sheeting seem to be right on, I hesitate to make changes to these though I have thought about a traveler.
Finally, I have heard about deck compression problems but I don't think that it is a problem with my boat. If I remember correctly some where a long the way CD put a steel support member in the deck that was not in earlier boats (eg. 1970s). I could be wrong about the history though. I have had the boat since about 1985 and see no signs of this.
BTW I failed to mention previously that my (small amount of) weather helm may be the result of a slightly over sized mainsail. My boat was built in 1980/81 and best I can figure there was a change in the mast length at that time. I know this because the sail I now own was made with a "P" = 22'. To the sail makers surprise when we hoisted the sail the luff was about 2' longer than would fit my boat, "P" = 20'. I'm sure he did not rework the entire leech of the sail he just adjusted the upper portion of the roach and the top two batten lengths. I have tried to compensate for this by a very slight forward lean to the mast.
Your points about the traveler and the out board sheeting seem to be right on, I hesitate to make changes to these though I have thought about a traveler.
Finally, I have heard about deck compression problems but I don't think that it is a problem with my boat. If I remember correctly some where a long the way CD put a steel support member in the deck that was not in earlier boats (eg. 1970s). I could be wrong about the history though. I have had the boat since about 1985 and see no signs of this.