I bought a Typhoon and found it has the wrong mast :^(

Sally Perreten · Post by **Sally Perreten** » Aug 2nd, '13, 16:51

Dick, I think it would be wise to ask permission before scavenging fittings off the Ty at Dodson's. Since it is, really, their boat, they might be thinking of doing that themselves for when local Ty owners come to them for repairs. It is, however, a good idea to harvest what can be harvested if they allow it.
Sally

mashenden · Post by **mashenden** » Aug 2nd, '13, 19:09

Sally Perreten wrote:Dick, I think it would be wise to ask permission before scavenging fittings off the Ty at Dodson's. Since it is, really, their boat, they might be thinking of doing that themselves for when local Ty owners come to them for repairs. It is, however, a good idea to harvest what can be harvested if they allow it.
Sally

Possibly I missed an inside joke, but I suspect Dick agrees wholeheartedly with that and never meant to imply taking anything without permission. Scavenge <> Steal.

Sally Perreten · Post by **Sally Perreten** » Aug 3rd, '13, 06:15

Of course.

I probably missed an inside joke, too. Abandoned boats are often - maybe even legally? - considered fair game, so I stuck my oar in. Hopefully, I didn't cause offense or distress! ....Am I right in thinking it is still legal to plunder a shipwreck? Not that you should take your lantern out on a cliff on a stormy night and lure one onto the rocks.

Sally

Dick Villamil · Post by **Dick Villamil** » Aug 3rd, '13, 13:02

I meant that while getting permission to purchase another mast, might as well get permission to (purchase via scavenging) as many spare parts from the derelict hull - especially those that are hard to come by.

Skeep · Post by **Skeep** » Aug 3rd, '13, 14:07

I noticed it was hinted at but not openly stated, you can download the spec Manual for the Cape Dory on the site--drill down and find lengths for shrouds/stays etc. FYI

mashenden · Post by **mashenden** » Aug 4th, '13, 18:02

Quite a few people have offered sources for rigging data, but I suspect the oversight is that any Ty data would be in reference to standard chainplates. This one has had its chainplates modified, with an additional one added as well. Possibly the lengths are not that different if , but then again...

Sally - no offense here. I just wanted to assume the best and point out a positive angle

shhiggins · Post by **shhiggins** » Aug 22nd, '13, 05:26

Hi All,

A quick update on scavenging parts from Dodson's. The hull was completely shot - apparently it had filled with water - and they were thinking of just putting it the dumpster. Quite sad, really. Nevertheless, since the owner had abandoned it they were able to get title and have removed every bit of metal off of it - which they are happy to sell to me! I will be driving up in late September to collect everything - mast, boom, tabernacle, nosepiece, winches, cleats, porthole rings, outboard bracket, the whole shebang. Once I bring it all home I will post a listing of the arts in case anyone would like to have the bits I don't need.

All the best,

Steve

Sally Perreten · Post by **Sally Perreten** » Aug 22nd, '13, 06:08

Hey Steve, that is wonderful news. When you come up we would love to have lunch with you at the very good restaurant right in the boatyard (The Dogwatch Pub) and/or take you for a sail on Echo. My email is sperreten1 at macdotcom.
Sally

shhiggins · Post by **shhiggins** » Dec 31st, '13, 15:09

With apologies for my radio silence, I did in fact make it up to Dodson's and thanks to Sally now have the mast, boom, nosepiece and all accoutrements from the poor neglected Fidelity, hull number 810, which is no more. Sally treated me to a very nice sail in her lovely Echo, my very first time sailing a Typhoon - thanks Sally! It was a lovely day indeed.

I took off the existing mast step from my boat, and you can see what was under there here: http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/shhig ... iew=recent

It seems that the three original bolt holes have been filled with what looks like plastic rods. I am planning on drilling them out, but any other ideas on getting them out would be welcome. I am going to sand down and patch over the newer mounting holes. It appears that the newer step was simply screwed into the topsides without the benefit of pilot holes..!

The tabernacle from Fidelity seems to have been pretty much ripped out and just one of the bolts came along, and that one was sheared off. Can anyone tell me what the proper replacement bolts should be? I understand that these mount into an iron or steel structure that is integral to the cabin top. Is that correct?

In addition to the expected components there were two mystery spars that the folks at Dodson's gave me, with photos also at the above link. Any idea what those might be?

Thanks everyone, especially Sally and the folks at Dodson's!

Steve

Sally Perreten · Post by **Sally Perreten** » Dec 31st, '13, 15:23

Steve, you are most gracious. It was lots of fun to meet you, and it's always a pleasure to chat with someone who has such good taste in boats.

Happy New Year, and I'll be interested in following your progress.
Sally

Markst95 · Post by **Markst95** » Jan 1st, '14, 00:38

Steve- My 72 weekender was just cored under the mast step, never saw any evidence of metal at all. I rebuilt it with solid fiberglass.

Oswego John · Post by **Oswego John** » Jan 1st, '14, 03:15

I would think that if there was steel reinforcement under the mast, there would be no need for a compression post.

With the exception of keel stepped masts, all of the other Tys that I worked on had compression posts or home made beams supports below the cuddy roof.

Happy New Year everyone.

Think Spring,
O J

Sally Perreten · Post by **Sally Perreten** » Jan 1st, '14, 07:43

Echo does not have a compression post. I'm thinking you have to choose between one and a head. We don't sail her in 30 knots of wind at our ages, but our deck looks fine and seems to take it. She will be 44 this summer. I wonder about the real need for one, but Mark makes me wonder. (And admire - that is one massive restoration project. Bravo!)

90 days, folks, before April and boat work time in New England.

Sally

Neil Gordon · Post by **Neil Gordon** » Jan 1st, '14, 08:18

Sally Perreten wrote:90 days, folks, before April and boat work time in New England.

My usual plan is to be floating within 100 days. Work can start as soon as it's warm enough to take the cover off and work without gloves... mid-March or so.

Steve Laume · Post by **Steve Laume** » Jan 1st, '14, 08:19

shhiggins wrote: In addition to the expected components there were two mystery spars that the folks at Dodson's gave me, with photos also at the above link. Any idea what those might be?
Steve

You got yourself the boom and upper mast section of a sliding Gunnter rig for a CD 10 or 14. The only spare missing, is a 2" straight section and you would have the entire rig for one of these boats. The length should determine which one it is. Those jaws are the important part as the spars are just straight tubing.

Best of luck with your project, Another Steve.

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