Cockpit table

Dean Abramson · Post by **Dean Abramson** » Apr 8th, '09, 08:00

From time to time, I have to clear pix off of my server. I will leave these up for a year or so, but at some point they will be gone. So if you want them for future reference, you might want to grab them off the web and have copies for yourself.

I will inform my ex-CIA Special Copyright Enforcement Hit Team that CDers are allowed to do this. So don't worry. (But, by all means, have your CDSOA membership card in an easily accessible place!)

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Sea Hunt · Post by **Sea Hunt** » Apr 8th, '09, 08:07

Dean:

Mariah was so beautiful

I was such a fool

I don't suppose it would do any good to ask you politely to not post any more pictures of Mariah

Looking at the above photos, remembering my visit to Maine in May 2006 and how beautiful Mariah looked, and looking again at the pictures I took in 2006, is very depressing. Where the hell is my bottle of Prozac

rtbates · Post by **rtbates** » Apr 8th, '09, 08:57

Noel Heslop wrote:Thanks Barfwinkle,

Yes, I can clearly see the offset pedestal.
Randy certainly maintains his CD25D in spotless condition.

Thanks Noel. Do you like the TEAKGUARD?

John Vigor · Post by **John Vigor** » Apr 8th, '09, 13:43

Noel Heslop wrote: I did wonder what the hole in the cabin floor was used for? My first mate did reckon it was for a table, but I just could not get my mind around the off centre layout, next to the mast support post.

Noel, the genius of the CD25D table is that the fitting underneath the table, for the support leg, is offset toward one corner of the table. It's not in the middle, as you might expect. So you can swivel the table around until the edge touches the portside seat backrest cushions, or you can turn it until it's straight fore and aft, so four people can eat from it. Considering it's supported from one side like this, it's surprisingly stable.

John V.

rtbates · Post by **rtbates** » Apr 8th, '09, 14:43

John Vigor wrote:
Noel Heslop wrote: I did wonder what the hole in the cabin floor was used for? My first mate did reckon it was for a table, but I just could not get my mind around the off centre layout, next to the mast support post.

Noel, the genius of the CD25D table is that the fitting underneath the table, for the support leg, is offset toward one corner of the table. It's not in the middle, as you might expect. So you can swivel the table around until the edge touches the portside seat backrest cushions, or you can turn it until it's straight fore and aft, so four people can eat from it. Considering it's supported from one side like this, it's surprisingly stable.

John V.

Hi John:

I discovered the ability to turn the table sideways awhile back. I never once thought it was designed that way. I just thought it was a happy coincidence!!

Noel Heslop · Post by **Noel Heslop** » Apr 9th, '09, 08:05

Thank you Dean, Randy and John,

My apologizes for a "slow" reply. I actually posted my message about 10pm last night, and I had great pleasure in reading your many replies first thing this morning. It is now 10pm again, so I guess you blokes are seeing the sun rise.

Your information is very much appreciated. I know I have a hell of a lot to learn about sailing, but it sure is enjoyable having a CD25D, or I am thinking any CD for that matter, and all the thoughtful little design features that I am finding out.

Dean, your photo of the stowage position of the "missing" table top also displayed your swing out instrument bracket. That is just the best solution I can imagine for myself down the track. PS. I thought that when under sail the table stowage rails, were for my 3 hatchway teak boards to stow, which I have been doing? So there you go. So where does everyone else stow your 3 hatchway boards? ( Is this the correct name?)

Sadly my table has gone missing in action. Even what I am sure would be a metal ring is missing from the table leg 2.25in hole in the cockpit sole.

Thanks to you guys on the board, my course of action is now clear. Buy the Garelink table attachments or similar in Australia, make a timber table top, which I will happily instal off centre in both the cabin and cockpit using the existing hole and/or position hopefully. Table top sized to suit my stowage rail dimensions.

Dean, yes I would appreciate access to your web photos. I have saved your photos you posted on this thread (as well as Randy's). But I would love to get more ideas from your other photo's.

Randy, I am not sure what you mean by Teak Guard. I do like the concept of the "table positioner" in the cockpit. Are the 2 small black curved areas "velcro" for that extra hold on the end of your table top? Alternatively, does your table just rest on the cockpit floor, held firm by the 2 velcro tabs?

Sea Hunt, all THE VERY BEST TO YOU on your search. I always enjoy your one off comments, as I know I am in the same learning boat as yourself.

Thanks again Dean, Randy and John for your assistance.

rtbates · Post by **rtbates** » Apr 9th, '09, 08:42

Noel Heslop wrote:Thank you Dean, Randy and John,

My apologizes for a "slow" reply. I actually posted my message about 10pm last night, and I had great pleasure in reading your many replies first thing this morning. It is now 10pm again, so I guess you blokes are seeing the sun rise.

Your information is very much appreciated. I know I have a hell of a lot to learn about sailing, but it sure is enjoyable having a CD25D, or I am thinking any CD for that matter, and all the thoughtful little design features that I am finding out.

Dean, your photo of the stowage position of the "missing" table top also displayed your swing out instrument bracket. That is just the best solution I can imagine for myself down the track. PS. I thought that when under sail the table stowage rails, were for my 3 hatchway teak boards to stow, which I have been doing? So there you go. So where does everyone else stow your 3 hatchway boards? ( Is this the correct name?)

Sadly my table has gone missing in action. Even what I am sure would be a metal ring is missing from the table leg 2.25in hole in the cockpit sole.

Thanks to you guys on the board, my course of action is now clear. Buy the Garelink table attachments or similar in Australia, make a timber table top, which I will happily instal off centre in both the cabin and cockpit using the existing hole and/or position hopefully. Table top sized to suit my stowage rail dimensions.

Dean, yes I would appreciate access to your web photos. I have saved your photos you posted on this thread (as well as Randy's). But I would love to get more ideas from your other photo's.

Randy, I am not sure what you mean by Teak Guard. I do like the concept of the "table positioner" in the cockpit. Are the 2 small black curved areas "velcro" for that extra hold on the end of your table top? Alternatively, does your table just rest on the cockpit floor, held firm by the 2 velcro tabs?

Sea Hunt, all THE VERY BEST TO YOU on your search. I always enjoy your one off comments, as I know I am in the same learning boat as yourself.

Thanks again Dean, Randy and John for your assistance.

Noel:

TEAKGUARD is the treatment you see on my teak. Yes, the black is velco. And, yes, the foot simply sits on the cockpit floor. The velco keeps it from moving side to side if it gets bumped.
Have fun with your 25d. A nice mod is to replace the companionway ladder with one mounted on the engine room hatch. Greatly opens up the salon and galley area.

Bruce Ebling · Post by **Bruce Ebling** » Apr 13th, '09, 15:27

I took the plunge last week and ordered the Garelick post and table assembly (about $80 with shipping). I am happy to report that the post supplied is near perfect height to use in the cockpit and the aluminum post fits nicely into the stock Cape Dory table socket. So when we want to use our table in the cockpit we just insert the Garelick post and base into their mounting pad and place our original table onto the post...slick!
Bruce Ebling

barfwinkle · Post by **barfwinkle** » Apr 13th, '09, 16:28

you had to know this was coming!

where are the pics? (at least after you finish the installation).

Fair winds

bhartley · Post by **bhartley** » Apr 13th, '09, 16:45

Bruce,

Is it too short or too tall -- since it is "almost" a perfect height. Did you need to order the second post or could you simply use the one that is already used in the cabin?

Thanks!

Bly

P.S. And WHERE are the pictures????

Bruce Ebling · Post by **Bruce Ebling** » Apr 13th, '09, 17:06

Boy! You guys are anxious! I just got it in the mail today and I took it out to the boat which is still on the trailer and under a tarp. It is still cold here in Oregon. I am in the middle of putting another coat of gloss on the Cetol I put on last year. This year I am trying to finish the last bit of teak on the boat. It is difficult to strip, sand and refinish under a tarp! Anyway I took the new pedestal and fit the Cape Dory table to it (Ahh nice fit). Then I stood the assembly up in the cockpit. It seemed a touch high, but then I have cockpit cushions that are about 2" thick. I think when everything is done the height will be just right without any modifications. I will send photos when I get the vacuum, sanding paper, barbeque, cushions, and the rest of the junk cleared from the cockpit and get the table installed. I am also picking up the last pieces to install a Harken traveller system. Can't wait for some warmer weather!!
Bruce

Bruce Ebling · Post by **Bruce Ebling** » Apr 13th, '09, 17:37

Here are a few shots of the table setting on the cockpit floor, just to give you an idea of how things measure up.
Picture of the socket and floor plate
<img width="540" src="http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/ ... C03214.jpg">
Photo of the original table socket and new pipe
<img width="540" src="http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/ ... C03215.jpg">
Photo of the table in place:
<img width="540" src="http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/ ... C03217.jpg">
Photo of the table to floor (never mind the dirty boat!
<img width="540" src="http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t36/ ... C03218.jpg">

bhartley · Post by **bhartley** » Apr 13th, '09, 17:42

Bruce,

Looks great. Now I just have to figure out how the base could/would work with the teak cockpit grate...

Plenty of room under that tarp!

Wishing you warmer weather soon.

Bly

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Apr 14th, '09, 07:28

Bruce Ebling wrote:Here are a few shots of the table setting on the cockpit floor, just to give you an idea of how things measure up...

Thanks very much, Bruce, that's terrific.

Do you have any reservations, before I go ahead with this, too?

Everything looks good to me, but I have a couple of questions.
If you don't mind?

1) The table looks a bit tilted in your photos - does everything set firm and straight in reality?
2) Are the base and ring made of plastic? Do they appear to be durable?
3) Could I order just the base and the deck ring, and use my existing post(s)?

The setup looks excellent, thanks for leading the way on this!

Bruce Ebling · Post by **Bruce Ebling** » Apr 14th, '09, 19:50

The table may look crooked because you guys wanted a photo so bad that I just assembled the base, pipe and table top then held it down with MY FOOT! You can purchase the pieces separately, but I believe the Cape Dory table support is too tall, so by the time you purchase the mounting plate, the base piece and the support, you might just as well purchase the entire kit. The base and mounting plate are made of that really tough plastic and are heavy duty castings, I can't imagine breaking one (maybe by falling on the table and torquing the base severly). We had snow here this morning, so the teak re-finishing is going pretty slow. Warm weather must be coming pretty soon, cause I can't wait to splash her!!
Bruce

The Cape Dory Board

Cockpit table

PS

A table of genius

Re: A table of genius

Update

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Height...

Table

Nothing like peer pressure

Thanks, Bruce!

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