Powering the CD25
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Re: Powering the CD25
Best thing that happened to my sailing was when I stopped relying on the engine. This was a CD25 with the 6hp Tohatsu. That was a great engine.
I started sailing to the mooring. Always sailed into Salem (which is not really hard).
I did have one bad day in early May where we were nearly to the mooring and got headed hard. We couldn't make it and had to come around. Under sail you always need a backup plan, or five. We brushed another boat.
We had a fun time that season when we sailed to Boston and the engine wouldn't start since I hadn't used it so long. We anchored under sail and set the anchor and people nearby were SO impressed. Necessity is the mother of invention.
Jeff
I started sailing to the mooring. Always sailed into Salem (which is not really hard).
I did have one bad day in early May where we were nearly to the mooring and got headed hard. We couldn't make it and had to come around. Under sail you always need a backup plan, or five. We brushed another boat.
We had a fun time that season when we sailed to Boston and the engine wouldn't start since I hadn't used it so long. We anchored under sail and set the anchor and people nearby were SO impressed. Necessity is the mother of invention.
Jeff
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Re: Powering the CD25
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But for my needs the Torqeedo 1003 Travel is perfect. Full write up and video here...
http://drysuit2.blogspot.com/search?upd ... -results=1[/quote]
I've been looking at the Torqeedo as well for getting my CD 25 in and out of the harbor. From what I see in your video it looks like a tight fit in the engine well. Any issues with fit or with the tiller?[/quote]
Remember my lazarette is on a 26, I'm not sure the difference in size verses a 25.
But Yes. . Because I cut the notch into the transom where the outboard sits. I can't lift the boats tiller without interfering with the outboards tiller, and I have to remove the bottom drop board in the stern.
I'll see if I can take some measurements this week. I assume if I add back the inch or so I removed in order to fit the Four stroke, I should be OK.
The nice thing about the Torqueedo, is that it spends most of it's time safely down bellow in a padded bag. When I do need it, I install the mast with the motor and prop first. That weighs maybe 10 pounds. Next you attach the tiller arm, weight, about a pound. Lastly, the battery at 20 pounds. My back is grateful . And I don't have the electrolysis eating away at the engine.
As "Far Reach" said; everyone's needs and confidence are different. If I sailed from a dock, or had to navigate a narrow channel with a strong current the 1003 is underpowered for that task. If you primarily sail from a mooring, than it's wonderful.
I do have a big Question for the group.
Now that I don't have an out board that is attached to the battery, and therefore grounded to the boat. How should I go about grounding the boat? Do I even need to?
Thanks
Frank
But for my needs the Torqeedo 1003 Travel is perfect. Full write up and video here...
http://drysuit2.blogspot.com/search?upd ... -results=1[/quote]
I've been looking at the Torqeedo as well for getting my CD 25 in and out of the harbor. From what I see in your video it looks like a tight fit in the engine well. Any issues with fit or with the tiller?[/quote]
Remember my lazarette is on a 26, I'm not sure the difference in size verses a 25.
But Yes. . Because I cut the notch into the transom where the outboard sits. I can't lift the boats tiller without interfering with the outboards tiller, and I have to remove the bottom drop board in the stern.
I'll see if I can take some measurements this week. I assume if I add back the inch or so I removed in order to fit the Four stroke, I should be OK.
The nice thing about the Torqueedo, is that it spends most of it's time safely down bellow in a padded bag. When I do need it, I install the mast with the motor and prop first. That weighs maybe 10 pounds. Next you attach the tiller arm, weight, about a pound. Lastly, the battery at 20 pounds. My back is grateful . And I don't have the electrolysis eating away at the engine.
As "Far Reach" said; everyone's needs and confidence are different. If I sailed from a dock, or had to navigate a narrow channel with a strong current the 1003 is underpowered for that task. If you primarily sail from a mooring, than it's wonderful.
I do have a big Question for the group.
Now that I don't have an out board that is attached to the battery, and therefore grounded to the boat. How should I go about grounding the boat? Do I even need to?
Thanks
Frank
Re: Powering the CD25
I'll need to do some measuring also. I live on my CD25 but I have plenty of room to store a motor when I'm on a mooring.
The bottom line for me is I despise infernal combustion motors. Gas outboards have been a constant pain in my side. Always breaking down when you need them the most. Somebody told me something about maintenance, taking care of the motor, blah, blah, whatever. I hate gas motors and even more so when I have to drop $4 a gallon for Rec 90. Noisy, smelly, polluting evil spawn of Satan himself they are!
I'm not sold on propane motors especially when I notice West Marine seems to be phasing them out. Poor sales? Reliability issues. No matter. My ideal would be no motor but I need to upgrade my sailing skills before I can risk getting out of Boot Key Harbor on wind and current alone. So electric will probably be the way I will go when the budget allows it.
Thanks for the thread. Helped a bit with things I've been trying to find out.
The bottom line for me is I despise infernal combustion motors. Gas outboards have been a constant pain in my side. Always breaking down when you need them the most. Somebody told me something about maintenance, taking care of the motor, blah, blah, whatever. I hate gas motors and even more so when I have to drop $4 a gallon for Rec 90. Noisy, smelly, polluting evil spawn of Satan himself they are!
I'm not sold on propane motors especially when I notice West Marine seems to be phasing them out. Poor sales? Reliability issues. No matter. My ideal would be no motor but I need to upgrade my sailing skills before I can risk getting out of Boot Key Harbor on wind and current alone. So electric will probably be the way I will go when the budget allows it.
Thanks for the thread. Helped a bit with things I've been trying to find out.
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Re: Powering the CD25
Between being in a marina, the moored barges and occasional crew team practices, I use my OB more than I'd like, and haul it in and out of the laz between most trips to prevent fouling.
There's quite a jump in price to the Torqueedo external battery bank motors. Yes, Lithium Ion is best, but the weight of 2-4 vanilla lead acids shouldn't be noticed much in a boat this size if positioned properly.
There's quite a jump in price to the Torqueedo external battery bank motors. Yes, Lithium Ion is best, but the weight of 2-4 vanilla lead acids shouldn't be noticed much in a boat this size if positioned properly.
Re: Powering the CD25
Found a nice Evinrude 8 HP Yachtwin that I am considering for my Cape Dory 25. I currently have a Tohatsu 6 HP Sailpro, which I am not fond of. The weight is the same at 60 pounds, but I would like the extra power and the smaller head might allow me to close the cover leading into the cockpit, which would help cut down the noise from the motor well. My only concern is that the two-stroke Evinrude might be smokier than the four-stroke Tohatsu. Any one have any experience running a two-stroke in a well?
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Re: Powering the CD25
I'm impressed that you can live on a CD25, with plenty of room! You have my respect. It's incredible how much "stuff" most of us accumulate.
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Re: Powering the CD25
I've been on Hard A Lee for over a year now. Quite comfortable but I'm a hardcore minimalist so room is not an issue. The quarter berths are a bit cramped but the v berth was extended by eliminating the head and putting a compost toilet under the steps to the aft hatch. It helps also I am single so no one to sit around and bitch, moan, whine, and snivel about not enough room. In fact, I bought the boat from a couple who thought it would be roomy enough. It wasn't. I think I saved a marriage when I bought her.Carl Thunberg wrote:I'm impressed that you can live on a CD25, with plenty of room! You have my respect. It's incredible how much "stuff" most of us accumulate.
I've lived on a 27' Hunter, 26' Pacific Seacoast, and a 23' American Spirit. I could go to 20' and still be comfy. Just a matter of how much junk you have to have on board and how comfy you are in smaller spaces.