I am considering purchasing a CD30 Ketch as a "project boat" and will have to make substantial repairs to get her afloat (after 4-5 years on the hard). Among the upgrades that we would add while doing the repairs are:
Autopilot: Any advice on what brand/installation tricks are best to install a wheelpilot?
Stuffing box: The shaft is worn (and burned) at the packing, and the cutlass bearing is shot, but the shaft log appears ok - has anyone installed a PSS Shaft Seal? Any pro/con to this product? Any reason to go with a stainless shaft instead of bronze?
Stove: She has a serviceable 3-burner cooktop with thermocouples, but the fuel source is a CNG (not LPG or Propane) bottle stowed immediately behind the stove and sticking up through the countertop. This arrangement does not appear entirely USCG or ABYC approved.
Cushions: She has clearly had the cabin cushions (mostly) replaced with inexpensive foam and covers, with no cushion for the slide-out berth and no back cushions. What was the original setup, and what improvements have been made (she is a '77 model).
Sanitation: The boat has a 6-gallon holding tank and seawater flush - I would want to add a freshwater supply tank and a larger holding tank - has anyone done this? What is the arrangement?
Cost: I have been doing some research on price, but any info about purchase prices would be appreciated (perhaps via e-mail) for a '77 CD 30 Ketch in poor condition with original sails.
Duncan Maio
s/v Remedy
CD 27 #37
Bristol, RI
p.s. anybody want to buy a CD27 in good condition?
dmaio@meganet.net
CD 30 Upgrades
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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E.J. Dochoda
Re: CD 30 Upgrades
Regarding PSS Shaft Seal...We had one installed on our 85 CD30 about one year ago and have nothing but good things to say about the PSS. Installation was a bit of a challenge due to the limited space and required a new longer bronze alloy stern tube. The original stern tube did not provide enough surface area to double clamp the PSS to the stern tube and positioned the PSS to close to the hull (potential chafe problem). The new longer bronze alloy stern tube resolved all problems. While the installation was a bit expensive it has been worth every penny.
edochoda@landata.com
I am considering purchasing a CD30 Ketch as a "project boat" and will have to make substantial repairs to get her afloat (after 4-5 years on the hard). Among the upgrades that we would add while doing the repairs are:
Autopilot: Any advice on what brand/installation tricks are best to install a wheelpilot?
Stuffing box: The shaft is worn (and burned) at the packing, and the cutlass bearing is shot, but the shaft log appears ok - has anyone installed a PSS Shaft Seal? Any pro/con to this product? Any reason to go with a stainless shaft instead of bronze?
Stove: She has a serviceable 3-burner cooktop with thermocouples, but the fuel source is a CNG (not LPG or Propane) bottle stowed immediately behind the stove and sticking up through the countertop. This arrangement does not appear entirely USCG or ABYC approved.
Cushions: She has clearly had the cabin cushions (mostly) replaced with inexpensive foam and covers, with no cushion for the slide-out berth and no back cushions. What was the original setup, and what improvements have been made (she is a '77 model).
Sanitation: The boat has a 6-gallon holding tank and seawater flush - I would want to add a freshwater supply tank and a larger holding tank - has anyone done this? What is the arrangement?
Cost: I have been doing some research on price, but any info about purchase prices would be appreciated (perhaps via e-mail) for a '77 CD 30 Ketch in poor condition with original sails.
Duncan Maio
s/v Remedy
CD 27 #37
Bristol, RI
p.s. anybody want to buy a CD27 in good condition?
edochoda@landata.com
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Olli Wendelin
Re: CD 30 Upgrades
Duncan,
I have a 1977 CD30 Ketch. She sails well and is a good choice for this size boat. Only you can determine how much "project" you want to undertake. In good condition the insurance value for this boat is about $27,000.00. It doesn't matter how much you spend on it or how much equipment you have, this is what the insurance will pay if it sinks.
To help determine how much the boat you are looking at is worth, have the boat surveyed to make sure you know all of its deficiencies. Then determine all of the ones you want to correct. Assign a cost to each repair. Remember that a yard charges about $45.00/ hour. Your time is cheaper, but factor in at least $10.00/ hour for your time. Subtract the cost for all repairs and new equipment from $27,000.00. This is what you should reasonably pay for your project boat.
The stove arrangment you describe is definately hazardous. I recently completed installation of a 4 burner Broadwater (aust.) stove with oven on my boat. I placed the propane tank in a box hanging off the stern rail with regulator and electric shutoff valve. Below the stove I placed a propane sensor which will alarm and shut the tank valve if there is a leak.
Last year I refurbed the boat after a fire, including new sails and cushions. I can e-mail pictures if you like.
Olli Wendelin
BLUE MOON
Charleston, SC
wendelin@spawar.navy.mil
I have a 1977 CD30 Ketch. She sails well and is a good choice for this size boat. Only you can determine how much "project" you want to undertake. In good condition the insurance value for this boat is about $27,000.00. It doesn't matter how much you spend on it or how much equipment you have, this is what the insurance will pay if it sinks.
To help determine how much the boat you are looking at is worth, have the boat surveyed to make sure you know all of its deficiencies. Then determine all of the ones you want to correct. Assign a cost to each repair. Remember that a yard charges about $45.00/ hour. Your time is cheaper, but factor in at least $10.00/ hour for your time. Subtract the cost for all repairs and new equipment from $27,000.00. This is what you should reasonably pay for your project boat.
The stove arrangment you describe is definately hazardous. I recently completed installation of a 4 burner Broadwater (aust.) stove with oven on my boat. I placed the propane tank in a box hanging off the stern rail with regulator and electric shutoff valve. Below the stove I placed a propane sensor which will alarm and shut the tank valve if there is a leak.
Last year I refurbed the boat after a fire, including new sails and cushions. I can e-mail pictures if you like.
Olli Wendelin
BLUE MOON
Charleston, SC
wendelin@spawar.navy.mil