Typhoon outboard Motor

Christian Sava · Post by **Christian Sava** » Jul 26th, '05, 21:00

Hello all,
I'm all set to buy a 1974 Typhoon with no outboard. Any suggestions on the appropriate hp? I'm thinking a long shaft is the way to go. Has anyone had any experience with an electric trolling motor, or is there just not enough thrust to propel the boat?

Christian Sava
Newburyport, MA

Oswego John · Post by **Oswego John** » Jul 26th, '05, 21:42

Hi Christian,

Most of us old foggies know how you must feel when you are about to buy your first boat. It's a great feeling. We know, we've been through it.

You probably have a hundred questions that come to mind, and hundreds more to follow once you do buy that first boat. Every season boats are sold and bought and new owners like you become deeply involved in the great sport (and leisure) of sailing.

Through the years dozens, if not hundreds, of people just like yourself have asked the same questions that are running through your mind. Fortunately, the webmasters of this board have set it up so that we are able to refer back to the archives for the varied answers and opinions of the questions that you now ask.

Not everyone agrees to a singular answer to any given question. The old saying on this board is that if you ask ten people what they think, you'll get eleven different answers. However, if you do consult the archives, no matter what question should come to your mind, a good consensus of novel opinions will be provided.

For instance, a few minutes ago I typed in "Typhoon Outboard Motor" and had 122 posts on that subject available. That's hours of varied information made available to peruse. For the fun of it, I typed in "Electric Trolling Motors" and found 21 responses to that subject.

We at Cape Dory BB are sitting on a wealth of practical information to help us be better at our chosen endeavor. I just thought I'd let you in on one of the many perks of being a member of CDSOA.

Best regards and happy, safe sailing,
O J

Christian Sava · Post by **Christian Sava** » Jul 26th, '05, 21:48

John,
Thanks for the kind, wise and sage advise. It's actually my fifth owned boat but the questions will still keep coming I'm sure. I did, shortly after I posted this note, come across the outboard archives. My questions have been answered! Imagine that. It was good, useful advice. Let me first write the check for the boat, assume title of it, and I promise I will join.
Thanks for your quick response.

Christian
Newburyport, MA

Mollie and Josh · Post by **Mollie and Josh** » Jul 27th, '05, 11:58

Christian,
Are you using this in Newburyport? If so, you should use at least a 4hp, a long shaft is a must. Some may say that it is too heavy, I might even suggest a 6 hp. The current in that river is incredible. I had a 16 sailboat just up river of the Rt 1 bridge years ago. I had a 3.3 hp on the 1000 pound sailboat and it just made it againts a combined wind and current.
Enjoy the boat, we love ours.
Josh

Tim Mertinooke · Post by **Tim Mertinooke** » Jul 27th, '05, 17:30

Christian, I have more than twenty years experience on the Merrimack River including running the launch service and the sailing school at the AYC. The river absolutely has a strong current especially with an outgoing tide topped by a brisk west wind. I use a 2hp honda and it pushes me just fine on the Merrimack River in most of the conditions one would normally encounter there. This year during one of my lessons I got to put my little 2hp to the test with four people on board against a ripping outgoing current topped by a 15-20 knot west wind. I don't have a knot meter so I used my GPS to show my velocity over land. We averaged 1.5 knots from the mouth of the river to the green can by half tide rocks. Slow? Yes, but you make headway. Besides if you are only going to use the motor to dock, come to your mooring, and manage tricky parts of the river when there is not a lot of wind why not do it with an engine that weighs 28lbs and has a tank attached to it. Simpler is better and I've found the 2hp to be all I need for the area you will be sailing in. if you are going to sail 98% of the time, why have a lunking thing with hoses scarring the prettiest lines in the river? My humble opinion. By the way you mentioned you bought a 1974 Ty. My good friend Ray Walton owned a 1974 Ty and he kept it at the AYC. In fact it was his boat that I would take out as a kid and say, "I have got to get one of these." I am curious to know if the boat you are purchasing is that boat. Tim

christian sava · Post by **christian sava** » Jul 27th, '05, 21:39

Tim,
Again thanks for all of the good advice. I remeber struggling against that ebbing current in My Catalina 25 with an 8hp. Then again, that boat also displaced quite a bit more water. I think it is the boat you mentioned. The gentleman from whom I am buying it stated that it was once owned by a gentleman from the AYC who raced it often with much success.Once the paperwork is transferred, I'll look for you on the water!

Tim Mertinooke · Post by **Tim Mertinooke** » Jul 28th, '05, 20:57

Christian, That boat is near and dear to my heart. The Ray Walton, the gentleman who owned it didn't really sail it all that much the last ten years he owned it. He and I made a deal that I would launch it and keep my eye on it while it was on the mooring (check the bilge, untwist penants, etc.). In return he would allow me to sail it anytime I wanted. Sail I did. I can't count the number of times I took that beauty out. It was my introduction to Cape Dory and I fell in love. Being a poor college kid around the time he was looking to sell I made him an offer to paint his house in return for his boat. I made the offer in May, he belatedly accepted in August, but at that point school was around the corner so the deal never materialized. It was sold soon there after. Ray never kept her bristol, he told me teak was supposed to be grey and fuzzy so you can imagine his asthetic standards. I would stare at the boat on its mooring right in front of the club and do maintenance to it in my mind. I knew just what I wanted to do to that thing. I purchased my Ty spring 04' and started to make all of those dreams a reality. I look forward to seeing that boat ply the waters of the Merrimack. Tim

Christian Sava · Post by **Christian Sava** » Jul 31st, '05, 09:33

Tim,
It's a small world after all, I guess. The boat has not been maintained in bristol condition, but I look forward (when i buy her) to restore her and bring her back. It won't take too much to accomplish that feat either. mainly just needs reconditioned bright work. I just returned yesterday from a week long trip and look forward to inspecting the sails, inventory, etc., and closing the deal. Look for us on the river soon.
Happy sailing!

Christian
Newburyport, MA

Appleton68 · Post by **Appleton68** » Jul 31st, '05, 21:05

I don't know if you boought an engine yet, but you should look at the 3.5 Tohatsu with the long shaft an dyou can get it in Wakefield, MA at I think Wakefield Motors or Marine. Wehn my original engine needed replacement I looked around and this engine and this location seemed to be the best buy.

Tim Mertinooke · Post by **Tim Mertinooke** » Jul 31st, '05, 22:21

Christian, Ray never kept that boat shining, in fact sometimes I felt like a foster parent. I'm sure I'll see it shine once your done with it. I always knew it would only take a season to get that thing back to its glory days. When I was a steward at the AYC in college the forestay on that Ty broke during a storm and the mast fell backward causing the boom to go through the back of the cockpit where the plastic access port is. He had the repair done professionally and replaced the forestay. In fact, you can exactly where the repair was because it was painted. Take a look the next time your onboard. I also remember the sail inventory being huge including a spinnaker. If you don't see yourself using that spinnaker or any other sail, let me know because I am looking to increase my sail inventory. Tim

Christian Sava · Post by **Christian Sava** » Aug 1st, '05, 16:15

Tim,
I noticed that! Was wondering what that was. All looks fine with the boat structurally though. He does have a large sail inventory including a spinnaker. Good memory. I will try to make all TY owners, including yourself, proud with her appearance, but with a new child to enter the world any day now, the priorities have shifted somewhat as I'm sure you can imagine. Still looking for an outboard though. If you know of any leads please let me know. As far as the spinnaker gear goes, I will probably keep it for the short term, but will keep you in mind if things change.

Christian

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