windless choices for the CD 36

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Victoria Y
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windless choices for the CD 36

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It's time for a windless, second anchor and rode. What I think I am looking for is a versatile windless that can be used manually until I am able to have it wired correctly with a designated battery, etc. It would need an extra long handle to make it easier for me to manage alone. Maybe I just need to keep it simple and stick with the manual....maybe electric is the only way to go....let me know what you think.

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Victoria
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Parfait's Provider
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Post by Parfait's Provider »

Victoria,

We have a manual windlass (SL555) aboard Parfait and at my age, pushing into the late 60s, I am beginning to think about an electric windlass. If we do it, I will also try to arrange the fall of the chain so that is no longer necessary to take the boat pole to the V-berth to tumble the pile of chain. This will call for some form of modification to the anchor locker.
Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/36 #84
Parfait
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Cathy Monaghan
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manual operation

Post by Cathy Monaghan »

Don't forget that electric windlasses can and do fail so whichever model you choose, make sure it can be operated manually too. Many of the electric windlasses can be used with a winch handle for manual operation and others use a long handle/lever.

Take a look at the Lewmar guide to "Choosing a Windlass", it may be of some help. And here's the BoatUS BoatTech Guide to Anchor Windlasses as well.


Fair winds,
Cathy
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patturner
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CD36 windlass

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We just switched out from an old ABI manual windlass mounted on the bowsprit ahead of the stays'l stay, to an electric mounted just aft of the bowsprit. Cathy is right about the manual backup; if going electric make sure you have a manual back up. It's surprising the number of electric models that don't have this feature.

There are a number of considerations when choosing. Are you going to keep the club boom for the stays'l. If so you'll need to choose a vertical windlass which take up very little deck space, or a horizontal that has a relatively small profile. Do you want to be able to use the windlass to pull up the second anchor if you throw one out there? Then you might prefer a horizontal model with a gypsy on one side and a capstan on the other. The anchor locker also needs to be addressed. Is it still divided by a vertical bulkhead running fore and aft. Most likely it is and it may need a little modification to easily accommodate the chain/rode that will come down at a surprisingly quick rate (if you're used to the slow pace of a manual).

It does take a little head scratching and if you do a search for "CD36 anchor windlass" on this board, you should find some helpful info. I'm just about done with my installation and will send some pics along if you like.

Pat
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John Danicic
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Windlass Questions

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Victoria:

We installed an electric windlass on Mariah this past spring.

[img]http://www.johndanicic.com/sailing%20pa ... 05-web.jpg[/img]

My spouse and back tells me it was an excellent upgrade. I do agree with Cathy that the manual option is important. Though, as in the case of my windlass, a Maxwell Freedom 800, the manual feature does not ratchet. The capstan is free spinning. This means that as you manually crank in the rode, only the pressure of your arm on the winch handle keeps the rode from going back out. This is not a problem for rope but the chain and anchor tend to need some strength. I am not sure that this is the case for all manufactures. If you intend to use it manually a lot, make sure you find out about the manual feature by reading the owners manual before hand.
To help you get started, here is a link to my page of CD 36 anchor windlass installation photos.
http://www.johndanicic.com/sailing%20pa ... nstall.htm


When you are done, send me a photo of your installation and I will include it on the web site. And Pat, don't forget to send me one of your installation.

Sail on

John Danicic
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Bob L
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Post by Bob L »

I have a Simpson Lawrence Anchorman on my 32. It has a friction clutch so that it turns freely only one direction (cranking the rode up). You can let go of the crank handle anytime to catch your breath.

Bob
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