Has anyone had any experience with the Campbell Sailer propeller by West by North Enterprises, good or bad? I am looking to put a three blade prop on my boat and need to be working with the right manufacturer.
Thanks
Brewer Ezzell
bemf249@murphyfarms.com
Campbell Sailer propeller
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Greg Kozlowski
Re: Campbell Sailer propeller
Hi Brewer,Brewer Ezzell wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the Campbell Sailer propeller by West by North Enterprises, good or bad? I am looking to put a three blade prop on my boat and need to be working with the right manufacturer.
Thanks
Brewer Ezzell
I had a Campbell 3-blader on my former Alberg 30 (displ. 9,000 lbs).
Don't remember the dimensions of the prop, but powered by the
Yanmar 2GM, it pushed the boat well. CW did an article testing
various props, and they said that the Campbell was less effective
in reverse than the Michigan 3-blader. Though I have no experience
with the Michigan prop, I can say that the Campbell could and often
did yank the Alberg backwards with no problems. It's a little pricey,
but I was happy with the Campbell, particularly its low drag aspect- I often raced a friend on another A-30 with a 2-blader, and
more often than not I sailed past him. By the way, I was under the impression that the Campbell is manufactured in Canada. Could be wrong on that,though.
Greg Kozlowski
"Sherpa" CD36 (formerly Brewer's boat!)
koz@seijo.ac.jp
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Lee H. Hodsdon
Re: Campbell Sailer propeller
Brewer,
I'll let you know Monday night! I get launched on Monday with a brand new Campbell 3 blade. I can say my experience with the folks at West by North was very positive, they were thorough and the prop was delivered on schedule. They have a web site www.westbynorth.com with an information sheet to aid in prop selection.
Depending on the tide rip under the Dover Point Bridge, I may have an interesting report for you on Tuesday.
Lee
lhodsdon@nh.ultranet.com
I'll let you know Monday night! I get launched on Monday with a brand new Campbell 3 blade. I can say my experience with the folks at West by North was very positive, they were thorough and the prop was delivered on schedule. They have a web site www.westbynorth.com with an information sheet to aid in prop selection.
Depending on the tide rip under the Dover Point Bridge, I may have an interesting report for you on Tuesday.
Lee
lhodsdon@nh.ultranet.com
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Steve Alarcon
Re: Campbell Sailer propeller
Brewer,
I put the Campbell Sailor on our CD30 early last year, and am happy to share what I experienced.
1) During the discovery conversation I had with Cliffor Friesen (I believe he is the owner), the discussions I had produced confusion as to the R/H vs L/H issue with my prop. Given that I could only describe the engine/v-drive that I had as well as how our boat handles in reverse, there was confusion that was never totally exposed. We ended up with a R/H vs a L/H prop. Campbell took back the prop, but would not assume a share of the responsibility and charged me a 10% restocking fee, and I had to pay shipping and duty on the replacement prop too! Altogether with the restocking, double shipping, double custom and double dive fees, it ended up costing me well over $600 US!
2) We have gained about .75 kt in the middle (1500-1800) RPM range, and lower and upper end RPM ranges showed no improvement in boat speed. It seems as if the pitch is a bit too much as the engine will not reach full high end RPM (max is 2600 and the best we can get is 2400) and the motor tends to overheat if pushed to 2200 RPM . Neither of these conditions existed with the original 2 blade prop. However, given the high expense of sending it back to Campbell for adjustment, I'm inclined to just live with it for now. Would you like to buy my used prop?
3) The boat shows only a small increase in ability to go to weather or against a current under power. Not nearly what I might expect given the basic cost of the prop, (note that the debacle discussed in #1 is not part of the value consideration).
3) Reverse power does seem stronger, but the prop is still too small to use it as an "emergency brake" when approaching the slip.
Final analysis? Campbell is located in Canada, and the way Campbell prices their props the exchange rate does not produce a benefit. Be VERY careful about what you order, as Campbell seems only to be concerned with profit. Shipping and customs charges add SIGNIFICANTLY to the cost. My experience with service after sale was less than satisfactory, and the high cost of shipping and customs makes that situation even more distasteful. In the performance to value equation, I have a hard time justifying the expense. I made a mistake, and I hope you can benefit from it. I will not deal with Campbell again under any circumstances.
Steve Alarcon
CD30 Temerity
Seattle
alarcon@cwixmail.com
I put the Campbell Sailor on our CD30 early last year, and am happy to share what I experienced.
1) During the discovery conversation I had with Cliffor Friesen (I believe he is the owner), the discussions I had produced confusion as to the R/H vs L/H issue with my prop. Given that I could only describe the engine/v-drive that I had as well as how our boat handles in reverse, there was confusion that was never totally exposed. We ended up with a R/H vs a L/H prop. Campbell took back the prop, but would not assume a share of the responsibility and charged me a 10% restocking fee, and I had to pay shipping and duty on the replacement prop too! Altogether with the restocking, double shipping, double custom and double dive fees, it ended up costing me well over $600 US!
2) We have gained about .75 kt in the middle (1500-1800) RPM range, and lower and upper end RPM ranges showed no improvement in boat speed. It seems as if the pitch is a bit too much as the engine will not reach full high end RPM (max is 2600 and the best we can get is 2400) and the motor tends to overheat if pushed to 2200 RPM . Neither of these conditions existed with the original 2 blade prop. However, given the high expense of sending it back to Campbell for adjustment, I'm inclined to just live with it for now. Would you like to buy my used prop?
3) The boat shows only a small increase in ability to go to weather or against a current under power. Not nearly what I might expect given the basic cost of the prop, (note that the debacle discussed in #1 is not part of the value consideration).
3) Reverse power does seem stronger, but the prop is still too small to use it as an "emergency brake" when approaching the slip.
Final analysis? Campbell is located in Canada, and the way Campbell prices their props the exchange rate does not produce a benefit. Be VERY careful about what you order, as Campbell seems only to be concerned with profit. Shipping and customs charges add SIGNIFICANTLY to the cost. My experience with service after sale was less than satisfactory, and the high cost of shipping and customs makes that situation even more distasteful. In the performance to value equation, I have a hard time justifying the expense. I made a mistake, and I hope you can benefit from it. I will not deal with Campbell again under any circumstances.
Steve Alarcon
CD30 Temerity
Seattle
alarcon@cwixmail.com
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Brewer Ezzell
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Lee H. Hodsdon
I cant wait till Monday!
Brewer,
After Steve's comments I can't wait for the Dover Point Bridge!
Lee
lhodsdon@nh.ultranet.com
After Steve's comments I can't wait for the Dover Point Bridge!
Lee
lhodsdon@nh.ultranet.com
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Jerry
Re: Campbell Sailer propeller
Regarding: "...the prop is still too small..."
Steve,
I have a 12X11 3 blade Michigan on my CD 30 and I'm wondering what other CD 30's are using. What is the size of your prop?
Steve,
I have a 12X11 3 blade Michigan on my CD 30 and I'm wondering what other CD 30's are using. What is the size of your prop?