CD-25 stories only - NO "D's"

[Didereaux]

THis post is prompted by a comment in one of John Vigors' posts...that he would like a verifiable instance of a 25 circumnavigating. I started looking around and their were few stories of the 25's about anything much greater than week-ending in some lake or across some bay or other.

SO! How about you 200+ registered owners of a true CD-25, doing a bit of posting and tell about how you went further than 5 miles.<grin> I know many have had to make some extensive 'coastals' at the least. Maybe a Caribbean? A Gulf crossing? Hawaii?

...and NO I have nothing against the "D's", but you have to admit for a small group you are a 'wordy' bunch. heh
Didereaux
CD-25 "Spring Gail"

[Wayne Brown]

THis post is prompted by a comment in one of John Vigors' posts...that he would like a verifiable instance of a 25 circumnavigating. I started looking around and their were few stories of the 25's about anything much greater than week-ending in some lake or across some bay or other.

SO! How about you 200+ registered owners of a true CD-25, doing a bit of posting and tell about how you went further than 5 miles.<grin> I know many have had to make some extensive 'coastals' at the least. Maybe a Caribbean? A Gulf crossing? Hawaii?

...and NO I have nothing against the "D's", but you have to admit for a small group you are a 'wordy' bunch. heh
Didereaux
CD-25 "Spring Gail"

We sailed our CD-25 "Windseeker" across Lake Michigan to Holland and Sagatuck Michigan and later sailed up Lake Michigan from the Chicago area to Fayette. These trips were made with my wife and myself and two young kids as crew. These are not long or distant voyages but more than daysailing.

Wayne and Joan Brown
'83 CD-27 Whisper



dinghy@mc.net

[Didereaux]

These are not long or distant voyages but more than daysailing.

Wayne and Joan Brown
'83 CD-27 Whisper

Hah! More than daysailing indeed. To be quite honest the great lakes 'tighten' my stomach a whole lot more than the Gulf of Mexico, and whale of lot more difficult to navigate.
tnx

SEE! you others, Wayne broke the ice, now it's your turn.<grin>
didereaux

[Dana]

The previous owner sailed my CD25 (now named "Gladys Erzella") from Seattle to Alaska and returned. From Seattle she went south to Portland, San Francisco, Santa Barbara, Catalina Islands and finally to San Diego Bay. His plan was through the Canal to the Bahamas, if I remember correctly.
Later this year she'll be sailing in Sea of Cortez or south down Baja peninsula to Ensenada.
Thanks,
Dana
"Gladys Erzella"
1977 CD25, #541
San Diego Bay



gladyserzella@netscape.net

[Bruce Bett]

My wife Karen and I have sailed the Sostenuto CD 25 #496 across Lake Huron several times. We have also done the 40 mile Lake Erie passage from Monroe MI (Toledo Beach) to Peele Island Ont several times. The longest passage we have done is a 28 hour run from Port Sanilac Mi, about 30 miles north of Port Huron, to Tobermory Ont at the mouth of the Georgian Bay. We set out departure time so that we would arrive in daylight and kept 3 hour watches. We sailed through a midnight thunderstorm (not a bad one) and found ourselves in 6 ft. following seas the next morning. As we turned the corner at the buoy off Cape Hurd I promised Karen the best dinner Tobermory could offer. They did themselves proud.

This was the first leg of a 3 week cruise of the North Channel. The boat performed beautifully. The worst of it was bashing back South under power in five foot waves with the wind right on our nose. That was really the only time I thought a bigger boat with a good spray dodger would have been nice.

The CD 25 is a great little day sailor. It is quite capable of rigorous costal cruising if you can deal the wetness and limited accommodations. Could it cross an ocean? Probably but (as Ted Brewer would say) not with me on board.

Bruce Bett
Sostenuto CD 25 #496

THis post is prompted by a comment in one of John Vigors' posts...that he would like a verifiable instance of a 25 circumnavigating. I started looking around and their were few stories of the 25's about anything much greater than week-ending in some lake or across some bay or other.

SO! How about you 200+ registered owners of a true CD-25, doing a bit of posting and tell about how you went further than 5 miles.<grin> I know many have had to make some extensive 'coastals' at the least. Maybe a Caribbean? A Gulf crossing? Hawaii?

...and NO I have nothing against the "D's", but you have to admit for a small group you are a 'wordy' bunch. heh
Didereaux
CD-25 "Spring Gail"

We sailed our CD-25 "Windseeker" across Lake Michigan to Holland and Sagatuck Michigan and later sailed up Lake Michigan from the Chicago area to Fayette. These trips were made with my wife and myself and two young kids as crew. These are not long or distant voyages but more than daysailing.

Wayne and Joan Brown
'83 CD-27 Whisper

bettb@macomb.edu

[Carter Brey]

Well, okay-- I'll chime in, for what it's worth. On my return sail from Sag Harbor to City Island last August (approximately 90 nm), I had to run the channel between Shelter Island and Cedar Point with a 15-20 knot NNE wind on my nose-- this passage is famous for the bad chop this raises, with all of Gardiner's Bay being squeezed through a tiny channel a couple hundred yards in width. The waves were about 6 feet high.

The same day, I had to run Plum Gut to the north with the same wind opposing the ebb. It was like being inside a washing machine. Fortunately I had two jacklines rigged, although I lost my Yankees cap that was clipped to my collar. Can't help thinking it was an omen of later season dramas, considering the direction of the wind.

I made the trip-- essentially the entire length of LI Sound-- in two full days of combined motoring and sailing. Like Bruce, I got wet and regretted my lack of a dodger. Everything was coated in brine. But the boat was not being stretched-- just her skipper.

I know this is small potatoes even as coastal sailing goes, but you wanted some CD25 stories that were more than daysailing. I guess this qualifies.

Carter Brey
CD25 # 762 "Mary Ellen"
City Island, NY

[Dick Barthel]

Well, okay-- I'll chime in, for what it's worth. On my return sail from Sag Harbor to City Island last August (approximately 90 nm), I had to run the channel between Shelter Island and Cedar Point with a 15-20 knot NNE wind on my nose-- this passage is famous for the bad chop this raises, with all of Gardiner's Bay being squeezed through a tiny channel a couple hundred yards in width. The waves were about 6 feet high.

The same day, I had to run Plum Gut to the north with the same wind opposing the ebb. It was like being inside a washing machine. Fortunately I had two jacklines rigged, although I lost my Yankees cap that was clipped to my collar. Can't help thinking it was an omen of later season dramas, considering the direction of the wind.

I made the trip-- essentially the entire length of LI Sound-- in two full days of combined motoring and sailing. Like Bruce, I got wet and regretted my lack of a dodger. Everything was coated in brine. But the boat was not being stretched-- just her skipper.

I know this is small potatoes even as coastal sailing goes, but you wanted some CD25 stories that were more than daysailing. I guess this qualifies.

Carter Brey
CD25 # 762 "Mary Ellen"
City Island, NY

Carter,

I'm glad I read your post about the conditions in Gardiner's Bay. I've been telling my wife we'd be able to sail this summer in the "protected waters of Gardiner's Bay. That's all I'd need is six foot waves to end her sailing career.

I'll try not to be wordy like the typical 25Der. See you at Unk's.

Dick Barthel
Dream Weaver 25D
Noank, CT



rtbartr6NOSPAM@cox.net

[Didereaux]

I'm glad I read your post about the conditions in Gardiner's Bay. I've been telling my wife we'd be able to sail this summer in the "protected waters of Gardiner's Bay. That's all I'd need is six foot waves to end her sailing career.

I'll try not to be wordy like the typical 25Der. See you at Unk's.

Dick Barthel
Dream Weaver 25D
Noank, CT

HAH! I knew it, a D'er couldn't miss an opportunity! heheh

[randy]

Was there an over riding reason why you couldn't/wouldn't wait for the tide to slack?

randy 25D Seraph #161

Well, okay-- I'll chime in, for what it's worth. On my return sail from Sag Harbor to City Island last August (approximately 90 nm), I had to run the channel between Shelter Island and Cedar Point with a 15-20 knot NNE wind on my nose-- this passage is famous for the bad chop this raises, with all of Gardiner's Bay being squeezed through a tiny channel a couple hundred yards in width. The waves were about 6 feet high.

The same day, I had to run Plum Gut to the north with the same wind opposing the ebb. It was like being inside a washing machine. Fortunately I had two jacklines rigged, although I lost my Yankees cap that was clipped to my collar. Can't help thinking it was an omen of later season dramas, considering the direction of the wind.

I made the trip-- essentially the entire length of LI Sound-- in two full days of combined motoring and sailing. Like Bruce, I got wet and regretted my lack of a dodger. Everything was coated in brine. But the boat was not being stretched-- just her skipper.

I know this is small potatoes even as coastal sailing goes, but you wanted some CD25 stories that were more than daysailing. I guess this qualifies.

Carter Brey
CD25 # 762 "Mary Ellen"
City Island, NY

rtbates@austin.rr.com

[Carter]

Was there an over riding reason why you couldn't/wouldn't wait for the tide to slack?

randy 25D Seraph #161

Hi, Randy--

Yup. As it was, I tacked back and forth inside the Bay to run out some time, and ran the Gut quite close to slack toward noon, but I was on a bit of a schedule and wanted to make New Haven by sunset that evening. It was actually a fun ride, unlike anything I'd ever experienced before on the Sound. And you're through before you know it; the line of turbulence is quite well defined and rather narrow, perhaps no more than a quarter of a mile. You can watch your depth gauge drop off the scale within a minute as you enter (it's hundreds of feet deep), then watch as it shoals up again on the other side.

As far as the Cedar Point channel goes, it kicks up any time there's a northerly, and there was nothing I could do about that.

Les Black, the dockmaster at the Sag Harbor Yacht Club, was delighted when I told him later that Gardiner's Bay had taken my Yankees hat. He's a Downeaster by birth, and a Red Sox fan by choice. He really hated my hat.

Best regards,
Carter

[Will W.]

Go to http://www.capedory.org/cdownersweb.html and view the sites but in particular check out S/V Lefty. Chris Mullins spent two or three years living on his 25 and cruised her up and down most of the east coast two years in a row. I don't know of anyone else who put as many miles on their 25 but maybe there is someone out there.
I don't have a web site and I have not sailed my 25 on the ocean but I do have one 5 day adventure and more than 1000 miles of weekending and daysailing under my belt, on the Cheaspeake Bay, in the last several years. I will link you to the post of my 5 day cruise from a few years ago. Looking back I would say it was a pivotal experience for me as far as sailing goes. I was inexperienced but well prepared, I learned a lot and it was fun.

Happy Sailoring~~~~/)~~~~
Will Wheatley
Suzi Q CD25 #249
Sailing The Bay near Annapolis, MD

THis post is prompted by a comment in one of John Vigors' posts...that he would like a verifiable instance of a 25 circumnavigating. I started looking around and their were few stories of the 25's about anything much greater than week-ending in some lake or across some bay or other.

SO! How about you 200+ registered owners of a true CD-25, doing a bit of posting and tell about how you went further than 5 miles.<grin> I know many have had to make some extensive 'coastals' at the least. Maybe a Caribbean? A Gulf crossing? Hawaii?

...and NO I have nothing against the "D's", but you have to admit for a small group you are a 'wordy' bunch. heh
Didereaux
CD-25 "Spring Gail"

Link to Post of 5 day cruise
willwheatley@starpower.net

[randy]

Sounds like a ride

randy 25D Seraph #161

Was there an over riding reason why you couldn't/wouldn't wait for the tide to slack?

randy 25D Seraph #161

Hi, Randy--

Yup. As it was, I tacked back and forth inside the Bay to run out some time, and ran the Gut quite close to slack toward noon, but I was on a bit of a schedule and wanted to make New Haven by sunset that evening. It was actually a fun ride, unlike anything I'd ever experienced before on the Sound. And you're through before you know it; the line of turbulence is quite well defined and rather narrow, perhaps no more than a quarter of a mile. You can watch your depth gauge drop off the scale within a minute as you enter (it's hundreds of feet deep), then watch as it shoals up again on the other side.

As far as the Cedar Point channel goes, it kicks up any time there's a northerly, and there was nothing I could do about that.

Les Black, the dockmaster at the Sag Harbor Yacht Club, was delighted when I told him later that Gardiner's Bay had taken my Yankees hat. He's a Downeaster by birth, and a Red Sox fan by choice. He really hated my hat.

Best regards,
Carter

rtbates@austin.rr.com

[Carl Jones]

THis post is prompted by a comment in one of John Vigors' posts...that he would like a verifiable instance of a 25 circumnavigating. I started looking around and their were few stories of the 25's about anything much greater than week-ending in some lake or across some bay or other.

SO! How about you 200+ registered owners of a true CD-25, doing a bit of posting and tell about how you went further than 5 miles.<grin> I know many have had to make some extensive 'coastals' at the least. Maybe a Caribbean? A Gulf crossing? Hawaii?

...and NO I have nothing against the "D's", but you have to admit for a small group you are a 'wordy' bunch. heh
Didereaux
CD-25 "Spring Gail"

Ed Campbell and Cindy sailed his CD25 across the Gulf of Mexico from Texas to Florida (about 700 miles), cruised the Bahamas, and returned. He is the author of Cambell's Cruising Guide to Texas, and well respected Texas sailor.



cd30spanisheyes@earthlink.net

[Didereaux]

Ed Campbell and Cindy sailed his CD25 across the Gulf of Mexico from :Texas to Florida (about 700 miles), cruised the Bahamas, and returned. :He is the author of Cambell's Cruising Guide to Texas, and well :respected Texas sailor.

Now THERE's a story I would like to see told in this thread. Thanks for the heads up. If anyone out there knows the Campbells it would be quite a neat thing if you talked him into writing an account of those trips.

didereaux
CD-25 "Spring Gail"

[winthrop]

THis post is prompted by a comment in one of John Vigors' posts...that he would like a verifiable instance of a 25 circumnavigating. I started looking around and their were few stories of the 25's about anything much greater than week-ending in some lake or across some bay or other.

SO! How about you 200+ registered owners of a true CD-25, doing a bit of posting and tell about how you went further than 5 miles.<grin> I know many have had to make some extensive 'coastals' at the least. Maybe a Caribbean? A Gulf crossing? Hawaii?

...and NO I have nothing against the "D's", but you have to admit for a small group you are a 'wordy' bunch. heh
Didereaux
CD-25 "Spring Gail"

HI... when john ask me about a man that took his cd25 around the world starting from clear lake texas and back "around trip".
he ask me alot of question about him and want he did to his boat.

it all comes down to "how good of a sailor you are" because "most" boats can do it...

just my two two cents

winthrop



imoutsailing2@yahoo.com