CD25-Lazarette Flooding; Miscellaneous Inquiries

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Chris Brady

CD25-Lazarette Flooding; Miscellaneous Inquiries

Post by Chris Brady »

I'm a new owner of an older CD25(Sail# 57, 1973), was wondering if anyone has experienced problems with weight distribution and water in the lazarette. I am not using the forward water tank, when underway a body on the foredeck tends to pull the stern out of the water and drains the locker but sailing or motoring with two adults in the cockpit tends to flood the locker????. Do you generally plug the lazarette or continue to let it self-bail?? If I don't utilize the water tank what should I ballast with? I'm not sure I like the lifeline arrangement, does anyone sail without lifelines? Who is making the best sails for CD25's these days?
Thanks one and all for responding. By the way I'm on Lake Champlain Northwetern Vermont there are quite a few CD's of all sizes around here.



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Jerry Hammernik

Re: CD25-Lazarette Flooding; Miscellaneous Inquiries

Post by Jerry Hammernik »

Chris, This is the 20th summer I've sailed my CD25 Dauntless and the one thing I never do is sail without a full water tank. My tank is 30 gallons, so that is 250#'s of weight forward. This is the equivelant of a large man standing on the foredeck. I try to keep as much weight forward as possible. Do you carry your batteries in the forward part of the lockers or next to the outboard. Carrying them forward helps. I also keep my fender boards up in the V berth for weight reasons. Check and see how big your water tank is. Each gallon of water weighs 8.3 pounds.

Do your lifelines run straight to the bow pulpit? On later models they dip down to the base of the pulpit. This keeps them from interfering with the set of the headsail. I get my sails from Bill Lee in Port Washington, WI. He runs a family loft but does very nice work at reasonable prices. I went to a full batten main 2 years ago and have been very, very happy with it. If you want more info on W. Lee sails drop me an E-mail. Good Sailing. Jerry



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Paul Saltzman

Re: CD25-Lazarette Flooding; Miscellaneous Inquiries

Post by Paul Saltzman »

I own a CD25'. I too fill my freesh water tank. I find that this helps to balance the boat a bit with the motor always mounted in the transom. As far as flooding of the lazerette, I haven't seen this happen. Can you explain more clearly where the water is coming in from.

Lifelines. Mine terminate about 18" aft of the winch at the deck. Poor choice it interferes with the winch when grinding. Only think is that seldom is the wind on LongIsland Sound ever that strong that i have to really grind. At the bow the life line starts about 6" off the deck. This allows the genny to pass by with it sitting on the life lines.

Reagrding best sails. Is there really an answer?

smooth sailing
paul
PUFFIN II
Sail no #318
HUll 271 CD 25'



Saltzma@ibm.net or saltzman@aecom.yu.edu
Bruce Bett

Re: CD25-Lazarette Flooding; Miscellaneous Inquiries

Post by Bruce Bett »

Chris Brady wrote: I'm a new owner of an older CD25(Sail# 57, 1973), was wondering if anyone has experienced problems with weight distribution and water in the lazarette. I am not using the forward water tank, when underway a body on the foredeck tends to pull the stern out of the water and drains the locker but sailing or motoring with two adults in the cockpit tends to flood the locker????. Do you generally plug the lazarette or continue to let it self-bail?? If I don't utilize the water tank what should I ballast with? I'm not sure I like the lifeline arrangement, does anyone sail without lifelines? Who is making the best sails for CD25's these days?
Thanks one and all for responding. By the way I'm on Lake Champlain Northwetern Vermont there are quite a few CD's of all sizes around here.
My dad used to own a 1973 CD 25. I currently own a 77 model. Some significant improvements were made in the lazarette design somewhere between those years. The old Dory really did scoop the water! My dad had two solutions (besides keeping the water tank full). The first was a couple of blocks of lead bullion up in the chain locker. The second was to fill the lazarette (with two gas tanks in place) with urathane foam. This did cut down on the scooping. A better solution would be to enlarge the lazartte hatch cover, enclose the motor well at the bottom and build shelves for the gas tanks. This is what Cape Dory did in the later models.



Bett@smtp.munet.edu
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