Well, not REALLY! It's a minor problem, but I noticed that the Eyebrows(for lack of a more nautical term) on Hanalei are sprung loose at the aft end near the companionway. They're out about an 1/8 to 1/4 inch. These are the small teak mouldings that define the coach house roof line. I know I have to remove the last bung in the moulding to get at the screw, but, the question is, what did the fastening screw into? Was it only attached to the fiberglas? Or, is there some type of backing behind the glas that the screw could make up to?
If any of you have any experience with this minor repair, I sure would appreciate your comments. Thanks in advance.....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei (CD-30)
Help...Eyebrows falling off !!
Moderator: Jim Walsh
-
Matt Cawthorne
loosening eyebrows
Dave,
Careful with the titles. Next thing you know someone will be spreading rumors that the teak falls off of cape dorys.
My '36 has one loosening eyebrow at the front on the port side. As best I can tell the fastenings are fine, it is the piece of teak that seems to be the problem. The eyebrow does not have much depth and if it is countersunk just a smidgen too much the screw head can pull through the eyebrow. You should drill out the bung and see if this is the problem. I do not think that making a thicker eyebrow is the solution because the forces on the screw due to making it curve around the cabin will be greater. Bungs are easy to replace so don't be afraid to pull it out. The forces on the eyebrow should be small so threading into the glass should be sufficient. Be careful not to drill through, because that can be a site for future leaks.
Matt
mcawthor@bellatlantic.net
Careful with the titles. Next thing you know someone will be spreading rumors that the teak falls off of cape dorys.
My '36 has one loosening eyebrow at the front on the port side. As best I can tell the fastenings are fine, it is the piece of teak that seems to be the problem. The eyebrow does not have much depth and if it is countersunk just a smidgen too much the screw head can pull through the eyebrow. You should drill out the bung and see if this is the problem. I do not think that making a thicker eyebrow is the solution because the forces on the screw due to making it curve around the cabin will be greater. Bungs are easy to replace so don't be afraid to pull it out. The forces on the eyebrow should be small so threading into the glass should be sufficient. Be careful not to drill through, because that can be a site for future leaks.
Matt
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: Well, not REALLY! It's a minor problem, but I noticed that the Eyebrows(for lack of a more nautical term) on Hanalei are sprung loose at the aft end near the companionway. They're out about an 1/8 to 1/4 inch. These are the small teak mouldings that define the coach house roof line. I know I have to remove the last bung in the moulding to get at the screw, but, the question is, what did the fastening screw into? Was it only attached to the fiberglas? Or, is there some type of backing behind the glas that the screw could make up to?
If any of you have any experience with this minor repair, I sure would appreciate your comments. Thanks in advance.....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei (CD-30)
mcawthor@bellatlantic.net
-
Neil Dexter
Re: Help...Eyebrows falling off !!
Evensong is a 1983 CD30. The aft screw in her port eyebrow loosened up after about 13 years just as you describe on yours. I left it be for about two years until my “boat guy” had to fix a part of the port toe rail damaged when a large wake drove a smaller boat up under it. I had him fix the eyebrow at the same time. All he did was pull the plug, tighten the screw, and replace the plug. It’s been fine ever since.D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: Well, not REALLY! It's a minor problem, but I noticed that the Eyebrows(for lack of a more nautical term) on Hanalei are sprung loose at the aft end near the companionway. They're out about an 1/8 to 1/4 inch. These are the small teak mouldings that define the coach house roof line. I know I have to remove the last bung in the moulding to get at the screw, but, the question is, what did the fastening screw into? Was it only attached to the fiberglas? Or, is there some type of backing behind the glas that the screw could make up to?
If any of you have any experience with this minor repair, I sure would appreciate your comments. Thanks in advance.....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei (CD-30)
Neil Dexter.
neild@ancor.com
-
Bob Ohler
Re: Help...Eyebrows falling off !!
Last fall, I removed my eyebrows for refinishing. They were partly loose already, half the plugs were missing, and the teak was very rough and weathered.
I used a VERY small sheet metal screw to remove the reamining plugs. Then I pulled the screws and carefully pulled off the eyebrows. Then I went to work with the electric sander... starting with 80 grit, and progressing to 150. Then liquid teak cleaner, then liquid teak brightener, then 3 to 5 coats of Sikkens Cetol. Now for the fun part....
When I bought new plugs, their size didn't exactly match the holes in the eyebrows. In addition, when I replaced the screws, the remaining hole was sooo shallow, that the plugs would not stay in, even with a touch of silicone. So, I knew that I had to match the hole size to the plugs more accurately.
I bought a 3/8" Forstner bit, and I had a 3/8" plug cutter. I carefully redrilled the eyebrows, and made a supply of my own teak plugs from scrap material. The result was a perfect match!
I re attached the eyebrows using clear silicone as a sealant, and applied a touch of silicone to each screw before I threaded them in.
The result was a neat clean job with refinished eyebrows.
Good Luck!
Bob O.
bobohler@chesapeake.net
I used a VERY small sheet metal screw to remove the reamining plugs. Then I pulled the screws and carefully pulled off the eyebrows. Then I went to work with the electric sander... starting with 80 grit, and progressing to 150. Then liquid teak cleaner, then liquid teak brightener, then 3 to 5 coats of Sikkens Cetol. Now for the fun part....
When I bought new plugs, their size didn't exactly match the holes in the eyebrows. In addition, when I replaced the screws, the remaining hole was sooo shallow, that the plugs would not stay in, even with a touch of silicone. So, I knew that I had to match the hole size to the plugs more accurately.
I bought a 3/8" Forstner bit, and I had a 3/8" plug cutter. I carefully redrilled the eyebrows, and made a supply of my own teak plugs from scrap material. The result was a perfect match!
I re attached the eyebrows using clear silicone as a sealant, and applied a touch of silicone to each screw before I threaded them in.
The result was a neat clean job with refinished eyebrows.
Good Luck!
Bob O.
bobohler@chesapeake.net